#91
mrs h wrote:
If he put loads of flies on it to liquify it for him that might work …
For some reason that made me think of black pudding. There is something I have never eaten and will never eat just because the thought of it is so foul. Same goes for whelks and jellied eels and all that sort of stuff.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 14:42
#92
mr self destruct wrote:
I only have one leather jacket that will last years, but not eating animals makes much more of an impact as people eat meat on a daily basis. I agree that it’s a difficult position to defend but to be honest I don’t feel the need to defend it.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 14:45
#93
mrs h wrote:
If people didn’t eat meat there’s no way it would be economically viable to grow cows just for leather, so Sam is only using by-products really. And i draw the line at sausages - my ex used to be a butcher’s apprentice and it’s just wrong to call that stuff meat. He actually became a veggie himself just because of having to make the sausages!
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 14:45
#94
mrs h wrote:
Sorry Sam, I said that as though you weren’t there!
I’m off now anyhow :)
*waves*
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 14:46
#95
mr self destruct wrote:
Are you off to grow some cows? :D
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 14:48
#96
Viirkokka wrote:
I eat meat and veg. im a bifoodsexual if you will. veggie food is delicious. I had quorn (chicken) dippers the other day and they were better than the real thing! tbh it doesnt matter if the food is shaped like meat is shaped.. because burgers.. what the hell are they shaped like.. circles :P
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 15:20
#97
Paddy wrote:
mrs h wrote:
For some reason that made me think of black pudding.
I have a client who makes black pudding and i had to go to the factory on a survey. The smell of warm blood being mixed with fat aint pretty.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 15:45 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 15:49 (Corrected use of quotes)
#98
mrs h wrote:
Yuck. I hope you got paid extra.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 17:24
#99
opal_mantra (Holly) wrote:
yeah.. but black pudding on a fry-up’s pretty bloody tasty..
mmmmm..:)
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 18:12
#100
mrs h wrote:
I wouldn’t know, I’ve never tasted it - I’m definitely squeamish about eating anything that looks like a haemophiliac’s sanitary towel :p
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 18:39
#101
Taunty Dan wrote:
hoochalobster wrote:
I will respect your choices but I still can’t say that I understand them.
Fair enough. We’re obviously just poles apart opinion wise. Its no secret that i’m not a “child person” and as history is built on tyranny murder and destruction i have no qualms about leaving this planet in any less or worse of a state than which i was born into. Undoubtedly my family and friends will be having (or have had, yourself included Hooch) kids but this doesn’t change my views, we’ve all come into this life tackling whatever issues the planet has thrown at us and i expect the next generation to do the same. I am admittedly a very hard and yes probably cold person, but thats just the way it is.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 19:06 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 19:26 (Corrected use of quotes)
#102
mrs h wrote:
But do you agree that you are very lucky to be born in a first world country, and that people have already fought long and hard for all the rights you take for granted?
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 19:10
#103
Taunty Dan wrote:
Of course i’m grateful and lucky, i’d be stupid to say i’m not, i’m just saying my time here is limited so i’m not going to fanny around championing every cause going.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 19:14
#104
mrs h wrote:
I would be happier if i knew that everyone had the same basic human rights that we have, and a way of enforcing them. The fact is that if people in this country hadn’t rallied together in the past and forced companies and landowners and politicians to take notice then we wouldn’t be in such a good position now. A position from which it is very easy, ironically, to pretend that no-one else matters.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 19:24
#105
Taunty Dan wrote:
…which is where i’m coming from.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 19:39
#106
opal_mantra (Holly) wrote:
mrs h wrote:
I would be happier if i knew that everyone had the same basic human rights that we have.
that is never going to happen..
as much as i would like to see it happen.. it never will..
the basic rights we have are not going to be seen as basic rights to someone in a third world country.. or a country where religion is law. they’re going to be seen as luxuries and sins..
we’ll never have a world where everyone is treated equally, where everyone gets what they deserve etc etc..
thats the world we live in and yes.. it’s good to stand up against the worst things..
but there has to be acceptance that things aren’t going to change to the way you want them to be..
there’s always going to be poverty, famine, unfair trade, child labour, animal slaughter, GM crops etc..
i’m not saying i agree with them… i’m just saying we can’t change that fact..
if we could surely it would have been done by now
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 20:02 in reply to an earlier post
#107
mrs h wrote:
You’re very cynical for one so young!
Well there’s a chance that it will happen and a chance that it won’t, but if people keep fighting for the right causes then even if they only make a small amount of progress the next generation can take it from there and so on and so on. I can’t really imagine anyone thinking of the right not to be tortured, for example, as a luxury or a sin though! There probably always will be horrible things happening, but that’s not really a good reason to support evil regimes.
And that folks, is why I don’t buy Coca Cola.
@ Dan - I know. You pay lip service to the people who made it possible for you to live the life you do, but you personally won’t be around long enough to fanny around doing the same for anyone else. I’m glad we understand one another :rolleyes:
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 21:02
#108
mrs h wrote:
@ Dan - Although in fairness I can see how time-consuming ‘not buying Coca Cola’ might be … :p
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 21:10
#109
Dennis wrote:
I do agree but I have to say the Columbians did absolutely fuck all about getting me that day off I wanted from work at short notice last month.
Swings and roundabouts lads, swings and roundabouts…:mad:
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 21:28
#110
opal_mantra (Holly) wrote:
mrs h wrote:
that’s not really a good reason to support evil regimes.
I don’t support them.. i just don’t see how not buying coke is going to change the world for the better..
i’ve had discussions on the same lines as this one with people in my classes at uni and i can honestly say.. i said pretty much the same thing to them..
whether it’s about buying coke, or eating meat..
i’m in no way trying to be cynical, i’m being realistic..
there is a difference..
and really.. my age shouldn’t be a factor in what i think.. i could say the same thing whether i was 12 or 20.. i’ve read the facts, i’ve written essays on them, i’ve debated them, i’ve protested against them and rallied for them…
i’m as clued up and understand everything that’s happening..
i just don’t think of this as that trivial.. it’s important yes.. but not to the extent where it affects our every day life..
innocent people died/murdered and that’s terrible and it is a tragedy..
but innocent people are murdered everyday..
corporations aren’t to blame for that..
it’s the world that we as a society have made..
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 22:44 in reply to an earlier post
#111
opal_mantra (Holly) wrote:
and about human rights..
torture is wrong.. in no way is that right at all.. i don’t agree with it, i don’t support it and i would never EVER consider it to be ok for any reason what so ever..
but in countires outside of ours, punishments used are a form of torture..
canings, stonings, beatings, whippings…
these aren’t considered a breach of basic human rights in the places they’re carried out..because it is that countries law.
the rights of a person in say iran or africa, are completly different to those of a person in the UK..
that isn’t going to change.
Posted on Thu, 13 December 2007 at 22:51
#112
kungfu bugaloo (benjamin stewart) wrote:
you wouldn’t catch Irn Bru doing that
necter of the gods man.
Coca Cola tastes like fizzy kenco.
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 00:03
#113
Paddy wrote:
opal_mantra wrote:
yeah.. but black pudding on a fry-up’s pretty bloody tasty..
mmmmm..:)
Yeah i’m hardcore, it hasnt stopped me eating it! Was just pretty foul seeing it being made
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 10:11 in reply to an earlier post
#114
mr self destruct wrote:
Coca Cola owns lots of other brands, a fact I was reminded of this morning while drinking a bottle of Bonaqua water (owned by CC)…so it’s not just the red cans you have to watch out for if you’re bothered about this kind of thing ;)
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 11:40
#115
mr self destruct wrote:
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 12:05
#116
mrs h wrote:
opal_mantra wrote:
these aren’t considered a breach of basic human rights in the places they’re carried out..because it is that countries law.
You’re right, in that in other countries all sorts of horrendous things happen within the law. But as I keep on saying over and over again - in the case of Coca Cola the trade unionists are being tortured and murdered by palamilitaries who are acting for Coca Cola. It isn’t a Guatemalan or Turkish or Russian company, and it’s not even acting within the law in those countries anyway. The Chief Executive is Irish, for fucks sake!!
You wouldn’t expect Therapy? to go over to Africa and take part in stoning an adulteress to death because the law permits it, would you? And if they did would you carry on buying their records?
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 13:32 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 14:07 (Corrected use of quotes)
#117
mrs h wrote:
@ Sam - I know. Good job for me I only drink coffee and alcohol!! :D
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 13:33
#118
mr self destruct wrote:
I pretty much exclusively drink tap water - tap water and coffee, tap water and tea…and just plain tap water :)
Even the aforementioned bottle of Bonaqua was actually an old one I’d refilled with tap water :D
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 13:43
#119
mrs h wrote:
I used to know a guy who only drank hot water. There’s something so horribly wrong with that, but I can’t put my finger on it…
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 13:46
#120
Dennis wrote:
mrs h wrote:
@ Sam - I know. Good job for me I only drink coffee and alcohol!! :D
Do you know how many people DIE making Carlsberg?!
Oh wait, sorry, what I meant was , Do you know how many people ought to be SHOT for making Carlsberg?
Posted on Fri, 14 December 2007 at 15:36 in reply to an earlier post
