#31
angela (angela) wrote:
You can also say: after the stroke the the heart stopped, so in that way Zipless was right.
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 12:51
#32
mr self destruct wrote:
The heart stops after every cause of death ;)
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 12:53
#33
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Lol. The same if he was decapitated. After he was decapaitated, the heart stopped, right? :D
Sam, he’s native to somewhere, certainly. :)
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 12:53
#34
mr self destruct wrote:
Sorry, I of course meant native English speaker ;) I don’t know this as a fact but that’s the impression I’ve got from his writing…even though his profile says Switzerland
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 12:56
#35
angela (angela) wrote:
I think I’m going to change my list in heart attacks for everyone, guess I’ll win the game then.
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 13:01
#36
Dermot (The Derm) wrote:
I always used to wonder this as well - is it possible to die from “old age” / “natural causes”..?
Surely *something* has to kill you..?
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 14:13
#37
mr self destruct wrote:
I guess there is always an actual technical cause of death, but if the person is old it’s just classed as dying of “old age”, if they’re younger more detail is expected/required for the death certificate…
Any doctor or pathologist WoMbleswho can help here?! :)
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 15:30
#38
King Caffeinebomb I wrote:
I’ll ask the ball and chain when she gets in - top notch friday night conversation that.
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 15:35
#39
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Dermot wrote:
is it possible to die from “old age” / “natural causes”..?
I get the impression it’s more a systematic failure of just about anything/everything, and that actually specifying anything is just a bit futile.
It;s like this story that I heard about Henry Ford. When the Model T was being widely sold, he sent out loads of representatives to conduct a comprehensive survey of all the things that go wrong with the car. They came back with all sorts of results, some things breaking more often than others, and one particular component that hardly ever broke at all. (I don’t remember what it was, let’s just say it’s the camshaft). So he took all the info, and went away to examine it. Everyone waited to discover what reforms he’d make to improve the design of the Model T, to make sure it broke down less often. Eventually he came back to his staff and made his announcement: from now on, the camshaft on Model T’s would be made with a cheaper alloy.
There’s no point having a part of a car last much longer than any other part, it’s just a waste of resources, and, apparently, the human body is like that, too. So when something wears out, it ALL wears out.
That’s why there’s no simple miracle cure for old age, too. You have to basically cure everything else, first.
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 16:55 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Mon, 28 January 2008 at 08:01 (Corrected use of quotes)
#40
mr self destruct wrote:
caffeinebomb wrote:
I’ll ask the ball and chain when she gets in - top notch friday night conversation that.
Nothing like some sexy death chat of a Friday evening
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 17:25 in reply to an earlier post
#41
mr self destruct wrote:
Oh and nice car analogy d, do you have any more? ;)
Posted on Fri, 11 January 2008 at 20:09
#42
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
:p No, not off hand. I actually got that one from a weird - but cool - book about the evolution of creativity.
Posted on Sat, 12 January 2008 at 01:12
#43
Dermot (The Derm) wrote:
^That’s really interesting D, cheers!
Reminds me of philosophy of identity - we were given this scenario where your car, which you really love, needs a replacement part (say a new tyre) so you change one of the tyres. Then a few months later you need a new exhaust, so you replace the old exhaust too. Then over the years you need a new gear stick, windscreen, engine parts and so on until none of the parts in the car originally are still there. At what point did it cease being the car you love? Or is still the same car?
That one really melts my head! What makes it worse is that the guy then applied the same thing to human beings with organ transplants :-/
Posted on Sat, 12 January 2008 at 09:55
#44
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Hehe, gotta love philosophy. :)
By the way, in case anyone was interested, the book I mentioned was The Artful Universe, by John D Barrow. It’s a little difficult to get into, because it doesn’t really explain where it’s going, but it all adds up at the end.
Posted on Sat, 12 January 2008 at 14:02
#45
mr self destruct wrote:
Are you his publicist, d?
Posted on Sat, 12 January 2008 at 19:09
#46
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
No, but I am on commission.
Posted on Sat, 12 January 2008 at 23:03
#47
The Auto Surgeon (Mark) wrote:
Well heres my “Death Squad” for 2008, hopefully this year I won’t have my slightly “left field” selection drop dead & give me as much grief as I got when Anna Nicole-Smith kicked the bucket.
1. Shuratto - Natural Causes
2. Michael Foot - Natural Causes
3. Albert Hofmann (creator of LSD, for those who don’t know him) - Natural Causes (ironic really)
4. Claude Levi-Strauss - Natural Causes
5. Jake La Motta - Natural Causes
6. Fidel Castro - Heart Failure
7. Patrick Moore - Chokes on some food i.e. accidental
8. Norman Wisdom - Natural Causes or Shock from finding out he’s not as funny as he thinks he is!!
9. Oscar Niemeyer - Natural Causes
10. Angelina Jolie - Blood Disorder
Wildcard: Amy Winehouse - O.D./Suicide
Yes, I know Shuratto is a cheap 10 points- but hey he could elude us as Castro did last year!!
Posted on Sun, 13 January 2008 at 10:59
#48
mr self destruct wrote:
I wish I’d put Suharto on my list but Dermot made me feel guilty about doing it :)
Posted on Sun, 13 January 2008 at 11:56
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Mon, 14 January 2008 at 11:06 (Correction requested by poster)
#49
mr self destruct’s post on Sun, 13 January 2008 at 12:02 was deleted by Teethgrinder (Message to moderator)
#50
zipless wrote:
YEAH! 1st place and I intend NOT to move from top spot!!
Anyhoo, bloody ignorant belgians :-/ just kidding Marja! Living in CH but being english. Hope that’s cleared up now.
Posted on Sun, 13 January 2008 at 12:23
#51
deadsetgav wrote:
Pretty much the same as last year for me - except a swap in the top two and an added wildcard!
1 Ronnie Biggs - Heart Attack
2 Fidel Castro - Cancer
3 Ariel Sharon - Life support turned off
4 Patrick Moore - Old age
5 Norman Wisdom - Very old age
6 Christopher Lee - Stroke
7 Vera Lynn - Old age
8 Maggie Thatcher - Satan finally collecting her soul
9 Kirk Douglas - Stroke
10 Jimmy Saville - Shell suit fire
Wildcard - Andy Kershaw - suicide
Posted on Sun, 13 January 2008 at 17:31
#52
mrs h wrote:
Misanthropologist wrote:
Strokes and heartattack are both killers, though.
@ Marja - But not necessarily. You can have minor strokes, just like you can have mild heart attacks. But whereas mild heart attacks are always better than serious ones, minor strokes can leave you paralysed and/or brain damaged. But they can also be so mild you don’t even know you had one :)
*has stroke*
Posted on Mon, 14 January 2008 at 20:19 in reply to an earlier post
#53
mrs h wrote:
Bugger. There was a whole page of posts after the ones I saw :( Ah well …
Dying of ‘old age’ is actually dying of multiple organ failure, because your organs get more and more decrepit until they can’t keep you alive any more. Sad, but true.
Posted on Mon, 14 January 2008 at 20:23
#54
Dennis wrote:
How about Early Onset Death By Old Age?
Posted on Mon, 14 January 2008 at 23:15
#55
mr self destruct wrote:
Posted on Tue, 15 January 2008 at 22:05 in reply to an earlier post
#56
deadsetgav wrote:
Yeah - guys gone nuttier than squirrel shit
Posted on Wed, 16 January 2008 at 08:11
#57
mrs h wrote:
“I regret that I feel I have no obligation other than to impose custody.”
Does that even make sense? I keep trying to work it out but I get stuck about halfway along …
Posted on Thu, 17 January 2008 at 18:49
#58
mr self destruct wrote:
Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence when the people responsible for criminal justice can’t even string a coherent sentence together
Posted on Fri, 18 January 2008 at 09:11
#59
mrs h wrote:
Maybe he was stoned. That would explain it :)
Posted on Fri, 18 January 2008 at 19:48
#60
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
To be fair, it might have just been the journalist that quoted him who fucked up. I think ‘obligation’ is supposed to be ‘option’
But for the sake of balance: To be unfair, I think it’s definitely the judge’s fault.
Posted on Fri, 18 January 2008 at 19:57
