#121
Charlie wrote:
A sarcastic reply from Sam - well there’s a turn up for the books. :eek:
Posted on Tue, 11 March 2008 at 23:30
#122
realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:
Put on St. Anger about 2 weeks ago because I’d just watched ‘Some Kind Of Monster’ and the riffs they use as incidental music in the movie always sound good. Alas, the album’s still shite.
S&M, even though it’s a covers album, is great.
I like Load and ReLoad, in an over indulgent, Use Your Illusion kind of way.
The new album? Well, I certainly won’t be buying it on the day it comes out. In fact, it’s unlikely I’ll be buying it the year it comes out.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 06:18
#123
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
S&M was with the Orchestra.
You are thinking of Garage Inc.
I find it all kind of funny - during the Load of shite Reloaded years Lars told fans of their old music to grow up and that they would never play that type of music again. In all recent interviews he is now “the new album will be a throwback to our 80’s album”.
I like the Metallica tradition, but they have been shitting on it since the Black album.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 07:55
#124
realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:
You’re damn right! Damage Inc. is the album I like.
S&M is okay, but nothing special.
New album will be influenced by where they are now and their 80’s stuff. The new song goes Hit the lights, I’m trying to read the property section
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 08:28
#125
deadsetgav wrote:
“Seek and Destroy (all illegal downloaders)”
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 08:49
#126
buffalo-boy wrote:
i can’t fucking wait for the new Metallica album, I don’t care what they say! although i had a good chuckle reading all the above posts i’m still hopeful they can pull out a good album - in an age where bands as terrible as paramore can make a living by conning emo’s into buying into their image i still pray that a good solid rock/metal album can come along and make me believe in rock again!
Sorry that was really cheesy.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 08:55
#127
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
realityfuck wrote:
Damage Inc. is the album I like.
“Garage” Inc. ;) It was a clever play on names by the band.
I will admit that I am also hopeful, but more doubtful.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 13:34 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 14:09 (Corrected use of quotes)
#128
Charlie wrote:
I don’t understand when people say Load and Reload were automatically ” shit ” because it wasnt all 100mph metal. There are some great songs on both albums. If Therapy? ‘s next album was all blues based rock we’d all love it regardless.
And…they never had a problem with downloading..It was about not letting the people hear anything that wasn’t finished. As I Dissapear had been stolen from the studio and was making the rounds on napster bedfore theyd even finished recording it. Metallica felt like they had no control over what people heard.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 13:59
#129
deadsetgav wrote:
Utter Bollocks.
Metallica instructed their attourneys to obtain a list of users who had downloaded items of copyrighted metallica material from napster with a view to prosecuting them… Lars was very, very vocal about internet piracy / theft until the backlash really started.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 14:52
#130
deadsetgav wrote:
Muskeg wrote:
And…they never had a problem with downloading..I
“We take our craft — whether it be the music, the lyrics, or the photos and artwork — very seriously, as do most artists. It is therefore sickening to know that our art is being traded like a commodity rather than the art that it is. From a business standpoint, this is about piracy — a/k/a taking something that doesn’t belong to you; and that is morally and legally wrong. The trading of such information — whether it’s music, videos, photos, or whatever - is, in effect, trafficking in stolen goods.” Lars Ulrich
I think it is far to say he has a problem with it…
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 15:03 in reply to an earlier post
#131
Charlie wrote:
foooock :p Well they dont anymore then …and they didnt in the old days either.
I’m still looking forward to the new album. If Rick can do for Metallica what he did for Slipknot, then we’re in for a real treat.
Iowa was horrendous and Volume 3 was near perfect.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 15:32
#132
deadsetgav wrote:
Muskeg wrote:
…and they didnt in the old days either.
well it probably wasn’t a hot-topic on the tourbus during the Ride the Lightning tour…
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 15:45
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 11:01 (Corrected use of quotes)
#133
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
Muskeg wrote:
I don’t understand when people say Load and Reload were automatically ” shit ” because it wasnt all 100mph metal.
The problem isn’t the speed of their new music, it is the lack of variation. Old school Metallica used to write 6+ minute songs with loads of interesting riff and speed changes - essentially a nice display of skill and songwriting which inspired a following generation of Metal bands.
The Load / Reload tunes keep the song length intact (something which always drives me crazy with Metallica - it would be have as bad if the songs on the last 3 albums were around 3-4 mins long) but lack the song writing and variety of the golden days making them boring to me.
The only things I would credit about the last albums was the fact that you could finally hear the bass guitar better, the rhythym actually does what it says on the tin and Kirk finally grew up as a lead guitarrist. His “wah wah” solos were getting way too repetitive.
As for Lars Ulrich - he is only in it for the money so that he can buy more pictures for his mansion.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 15:57 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 11:01 (Corrected use of quotes)
#134
mr self destruct wrote:
Muskeg wrote:
foooock :p Well they dont anymore then …
Evidence?
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 15:58 in reply to an earlier post
#135
fatboy wrote:
I’m going to cause a storm here, but Metallica are a spent force. Anything after the black album has hardly been on repeat on my stereo. If they could what Maiden did after Bruce returned and come back with an album that would get others into the genre, then I’ll give a listen, but I’m not holding my breath.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 18:16
#136
Taunty Dan wrote:
Muskeg wrote:
If Therapy? ‘s next album was all blues based rock we’d all love it regardless.
no, we wouldn’t!
and i totally agree with fatboy, everythig they’ve done since the black album has been bad. And that was 17 fucking years ago!!!
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 18:42 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 11:02 (Corrected use of quotes)
#137
Gimme Back My Brainsaw (Mike Hunt) wrote:
hmm judging from the title of this thread seems these lazy fucks are recycling album names now.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 20:54
#138
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
im looking forward to this album, im sure they wudnt take 5 years to release a shit album, st anger may be a mistake (even tho i think its one of their best albums) but i still have faith in the band that influenced so many bands we love and enjoy today.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 22:13
#139
Dusty (Chris Davies) wrote:
I think Load and ReLoad make one pretty decent album , ok not upto the standards of all there previous efforts but much , much better than St Anger.
Fuel
Ain’t My Bitch
2 X 4
The Memory Remains (although the bit with the granny makes me want to vomit)
Until It Sleeps
King Nothing
The Unforgiven II
Hero Of The Day
Bleeding Me
Fixxxer
The Outlaw Torn
11 pretty good songs in my opinion. I may be wrong , but by todays standards of hard rock/heavy metal that would be a fantastic album.
Although ‘Mama Said’ should go down as the worst thing they ever done. :D
I’ll buy the new album once its eventually out , but if i’m as dissapointed by it as I was with St Anger then i’ll say they need to call it a day.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 22:56
#140
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
i love mama said, a nice album breaker i think, shows metallica are capable of doing somet other than metal.
Posted on Wed, 12 March 2008 at 23:06
#141
realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:
KJC Dublin wrote:
Oops again. Obviously too clever for me :( Hey, I was very tired yesterday and I’m typing these posts quickly as I’m in work (and various other excuses to hide my embarrassment).
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 06:14 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 11:02 (Corrected use of quotes)
#142
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
ah no worries mate - I usually also post from work - hence tonnes of typing mistakes etc.
Funnilly enough, I have to say that I like “Mama Said” as a tune. As for the track listing above, I agree that it should have been only one album and even though there are some nice ones on there, it is still a poor comparison to previous output.
St. Anger could have been a decent album in my books had they recorded it properly, added guitar solos, got a proper bass player and shortened the bloody songs - like holy crap, having an 8 minute song with frequent riff and tempo changes is fine, having one with 3 boring riffs just ain’t on.
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 07:47
#143
buffalo-boy wrote:
KJC Dublin wrote:
The Load / Reload tunes keep the song length intact but lack the song writing and variety of the golden days making them boring to me.
I disagree with that, load and reload were waaaaaay more varied than anything else they ever did from c & w ballads to greasy blues riffing…it’s just that as the band themselves said they polished these two turds until they were releasable. I reckon this would have made a good album:
Fuel
St Anger
Devil Dance
Cure
Sweet Amber
Bleeding Me
Dirty Window
Purify
Prince Charming
Until It Sleeps
Shoot Me Again
One good record out of the last 12 years aint great tho!
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 08:53 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by Teethgrinder on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 11:04 (Corrected use of quotes)
#144
deadsetgav wrote:
Most bands write a whole bunch of tunes for an album then narrow them down to about 10-12 decent ones to work on for the album… I’m sure I read somehwere that by the time of the release of Reload - Metallica had released every song they had ever written… No quality control
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 09:02
#145
deadsetgav wrote:
oh - and ‘Ronnie’ is fucking crap
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 09:03
#146
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
@Buffalo Boy - you are talking about genre variation throughout a full album, I am talking about technical variation within a single song - the old school Metallica bitchslaps ‘Tallica when it comes to that.
Load and Reload do experiment with more genres (not that tricky, the old school albums were all speed / thrash metal), but they were still crap as Metallica is not particularly good outside of the Metal genre IMO.
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 09:52
#147
Dennis wrote:
^ Good post.
Load and Reload weren’t crap because they weren’t Thrash, they were crap because Metallica don’t have the musicality to pull off the other genres they tackled.
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 10:22
#148
Dennis wrote:
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 10:31
#149
Charlie wrote:
mr self destruct wrote:
I have neither the time not the patience to explain it to you.,
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 12:09 in reply to an earlier post
#150
Charlie wrote:
Gimme Back My Brainsaw wrote:
hmm judging from the title of this thread seems these lazy fucks are recycling album names now.
:P well i couldn’t start a new metallica thread - it would obviously get closed and redirected. So I chose this one.
Posted on Thu, 13 March 2008 at 12:11 in reply to an earlier post
