#31
Citizen Erased wrote:
Title: Help save lives
The UK should join with Iraq and declare war on the US. That way we suffer fewer ‘friendly fire’ casualties.
The money saved on the military funerals can be spent on helicopter lessons.
Posted on Mon, 24 March 2003 at 16:40
#32
penn wrote:
i forgot to say you can buy this amazing cap there…
(Before changing the message boards’ software in August 2007 this post had a file attachment, which may return in the future)
Posted on Mon, 24 March 2003 at 17:52
#33
trigger wrote:
the propaghanda which took place all these past months is unbelievable. all these pro-war people were convinced that war nowadays is a pleasant stroll and some sort of MS Flight Simulator kind of thing. and now i see all these pictures of dead men women and children, destroyed houses, captured americans who do not have a clue of how and why they ended up there. let’s see how bush, blur, athnar (?) and the other champions of peace will justify all this blood.
p.s. i visited these sites penn mentioned, i finally begin to understand why americans voted for bush. they say ‘every people have the leader they deserve’ and i am afraid this true in usa’s case.
Posted on Mon, 24 March 2003 at 21:36
#34
White Psycho wrote:
It was good that Michael Moore spoke his mind at the oscars, bit of luck and bush won’t get another term, but there might be another farce like last time
Posted on Mon, 24 March 2003 at 21:57
#35
penn wrote:
from “A Letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush on the Eve of War”
“The majority of Americans — the ones who never elected you — are not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives — and none of them begin with I or end in Q. Here’s what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs almost two dollars — the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.”
i also think the mass distraction was more important than oil for this war. they can have oil easily from other parts of the world (for instance in venezuela they’re supporting the anti-chavez protest).
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 10:55
#36
donVutz wrote:
Title: germanystinks.com
great site, really enjoyed it, especialy the story of “the fat and the lazy”. how good it’s not made by some stupid redneck who believes every word mr. bush says. funny they make jokes about the french and german armys, because once you give a real gun to american soldiers, they’ve got nothing better to do to each other. soldiers died in action:1 soldiers died because of friendly fire:16. frendly fire wins and makes it right to the finals! *hooray*
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 11:03
#37
penn wrote:
[i hit the submit reply by mistake]
i also think the mass distraction was more important than oil for this war. they can have oil easily from other parts of the world (for instance in venezuela they’re supporting the anti-chavez protest).
the same thing happened with germany and hitler.
i remember that when bush was elected he said he couln’t care less about foreign policy. see what happened.
if you have flash try this:
http://www.markfiore.com/animation/bluster.html
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 11:05
#38
Citizen Erased wrote:
penn wrote:
i also think the mass distraction was more important than oil for this war. they can have oil easily from other parts of the world (for instance in venezuela they’re supporting the anti-chavez protest).
You’re spot on there, my girlfriend used to work for BP, so knows the oil industry pretty well - oil is not really a motivating factor for the US. In fact, it’s hard to see what potential economic gain there is for the US, given their situation re Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and given that the cost of the fighting is going to be $75bn, so the economic benefit would need to be pretty drastic if it was the sole or main reason.
Still, Michael Moore’s speech was quite entertaining - the guy’s great live, very passionate, but it’s a little hard to take someone seriously when they talk about the starving of the world (as he did in his recent show in London) when that person clearly had a good time in the pie shop himself…
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 11:16
#39
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
penn wrote:
from “A Letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush on the Eve of War”
From http://www.michaelmoore.com - please remember to link to the original source when quoting :)
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 13:17
#40
penn wrote:
Citizen Erased wrote:
You’re spot on there, my girlfriend used to work for BP, so knows the oil industry pretty well - oil is not really a motivating factor for the US. In fact, it’s hard to see what potential economic gain there is for the US, given their situation re Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and given that the cost of the fighting is going to be $75bn, so the economic benefit would need to be pretty drastic if it was the sole or main reason.
i have somewhere the famous article from the financial times about it.
it’s pretty convincing in its valutation of costs/benefits.
i think the real benefits for the us comes from the strategic value of the position of iraq.
Citizen Erased’s quote taken from: http://www.therapyquestionmark.co.uk/wallofmouths
ok hooch? :)
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 21:06
#41
Alan wrote:
Cheeky git!
Hooch, you should fine penn 2 weeks wages.
:-)
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 21:32
#42
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
Hah hah - want to find out how much he earns first, might make it a month… ;)
Posted on Tue, 25 March 2003 at 21:47
#43
Citizen Erased wrote:
The citizens are revolting in Basra.
They’re fairly manky here in Middlesbrough as well.
Arf Arf
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 09:50
#44
opalmantra wrote:
American companies are already ready to settle in conquered regions of iraq…hahaha…oh…and Britain wants too, but they missed the boat a bit.
I seriously have doubt if they’ll ever take Bagdad. Fighting a war in a city is totally different.
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 13:44
#45
penn wrote:
hoochalobster wrote:
Hah hah - want to find out how much he earns first, might make it a month… ;)
i apologize for my impudence !
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 16:32
#46
White Psycho wrote:
Tony’s just gone off to USA because he wants to allow the UN to rebuild the country, while Georgey want Americans to do it all and basically take over the country
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 16:57
#47
Citizen Erased wrote:
Colin (fantastic name for a soldier, no wonder he pronounces it differently) agrees with Tony, and not Georgey and Rummy, therefore hooray for Colin. Just a shame that he’s the token black dude in the US government and will probably be overruled by the others :(
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 17:19
#48
Citizen Erased wrote:
Be cool if he got to be the first black US president though.
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 17:20
#49
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
penn wrote:
i apologize for my impudence !
Lol, you are forgiven ;)
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 19:52
#50
trigger wrote:
i think that war on iraq has to do with oil. europe is receiving about 70-80% of oil from the middle east so if the us have total control of the area they can also have control over the financial situation of the EU.
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 21:53
#51
White Psycho wrote:
I reckon its more to do with the fact that the USs economy is fucked at the moment and a war is a good way to cover that up, give america something else to think about “Go back to bed america, your government has it all figured out”
Posted on Wed, 26 March 2003 at 22:43
#52
dano wrote:
What gets me about Powell is this, fair enough..you want to have a more exotic name than Colin..but in the same situation would you rather be called something that sounds a bit too much like Colon?
Still, makes sense… he’s working for a complete arse.
Posted on Fri, 28 March 2003 at 01:16
#53
Citizen Erased wrote:
Colin, colon, Powell, power…
Colon Power!
Posted on Fri, 28 March 2003 at 10:05
#54
Citizen Erased wrote:
Have just spent the past 2 hours watching the BBC and seeing the Iraqis (and Americans) pull down a big statue of Sadly Insane in Baghdad. Quite an amazing bit of TV - and does seem to back up the claims that the war was just.
Posted on Wed, 9 April 2003 at 15:07
#55
Alex wrote:
Ha! Me too. And didn’t they make a meal of it!
Posted on Wed, 9 April 2003 at 15:31
#56
Citizen Erased wrote:
It was the big biffa who turned up with the sledgehammer that amused me - and a little gadgie who kept trying to get up the ladder but kept being pushed out the way.
Presume it’s now going to be on the news for the next X hours/days, but still, a bit of a Berlin Wall TV moment.
Posted on Wed, 9 April 2003 at 15:38
#57
Nausea wrote:
yeah i watched that too on sky news.. i too found it quite funny when that big bloke turned up and started going nuts with that big sledgehammer.. one doesn’t want to get into i fight with him, that’s for sure.
Posted on Wed, 9 April 2003 at 18:44
#58
White Psycho wrote:
the war isn’t just, there isn’t any proportionality. Sorry but I have to know that crap!
Posted on Wed, 9 April 2003 at 20:38
