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Started by Gav in Chit-Chat

Who the fuck do they think they are?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7962631.stm

How many people in the uk have been killed by terrorists in the last 20 years? with the IRA campaign and the London bombings… how much money are they sinking into these big-brother surveilance databases?

Now how many children live in poverty in this country? and how much is being spent on that?

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 08:45

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mrs h wrote:

Don’t panic, it won’t go through. What would they be able to do? Email the terrorists and ask them not to recruit online?

I think a lot of money is spent on trying to address the causes of child poverty though. Maybe even as much as we spent on investigating the death of Lady Di!

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:05

#2

Old twat wrote:

Insanity gone mad innit. But one thing you can be sure of is that whatever reason given by those in power for these nutty moves it’ll probably be the Orwellian opposite.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:05

#3

Gav wrote:

What I meant with the child poverty is to highlight the inproportional amount being spent on watching us to see what we are doing… they are sinking ££BILLIONS££ into this.

Its not just the spying on us thats pissing me off - its their insistance on trying to micro-manage our fucking lives, last year we had the smoking thing rammed down our throats all the time - they won - they banned it in public.

Now they’ve switched their attention to how much we are drinking… how much we are eating… who we phone and email… they should back the fuck off and let us live our lives.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:12

#4

msd wrote:

You are evidently angry about it Gav so I hope you do something about it…even if it’s just talking to friends and colleagues

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:18

#5

mrs h wrote:

I completely agree with you - I think my views on civil liberties are pretty well documented. I suppose I just think if anyone is daft enough to think that information on a social networking site is going to be protected in some way then they deserve to be spied on*. I mean - I’ve read the terms and conditions on the downloads on facebook and there is absolutely no way on this earth I would ever download anything from them!!

*that’s a figure of speech. I don’t really think that.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:24

#6

mrs h wrote:

Mine was at Gav btw! :)

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:24

#7

Gav wrote:

mr self destruct wrote:

You are evidently angry about it Gav so I hope you do something about it…even if it’s just talking to friends and colleagues

Yeah - I’m going to blow that scottish cunt Gordon Brown up - and I’m going to tell everyone I know how and when I’m going to do it by the power of the internet.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:36 in reply to an earlier post

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msd’s post on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:39 was deleted by Teethgrinder (Message to moderator)

#9

Gav wrote:

The worrying thing is how many people comment on these stories that believe this is a good thing?

what the fuck?

i’ve nothing to hide so I think its a good thing blah blah blah… are you fucking stupid? do I need to ask?

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:43

#10

msd wrote:

There are a lot of stupid people and there are also a lot of people who have been terrorised into submission

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 09:50

#11

Cuchulain wrote:

Thing is that with the decline in IT spending from the banking sector , the big IT companies will now turn to governments and strike fear into them about these threats in order to sell them rather expensive data storage solutions.

And I should know…

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 11:09

#12

Old twat wrote:

deadsetgav wrote:

Yeah - I’m going to blow that scottish cunt Gordon Brown up - and I’m going to tell everyone I know how and when I’m going to do it by the power of the internet.

You have been flagged at GCHQ and I’m opening a book on when your brakes will fail.

Any takers?

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 11:33 in reply to an earlier post

#13

msd wrote:

What are your odds?

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 11:36

#14

g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

One step closer to catching the thought criminals.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 11:49

#15

Gav wrote:

It comes to something when you start thinking “at least the tories are too busy looking after themselves to give a fuck what we are doing”…

We’re all fucked :rolleyes:

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 11:58

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

I heard an advert on the radio saying “This is the sound of a bomb NOT going off in a busy shopping centre…this is the sound of a bomb NOT going off in rush hour traffic…”
Using scare tactics, they were basically saying report anything you find suspicious or it will be on YOUR conscience for not acting when something terrible happens.

Now of course if you do suspect something dodgy you should report it to the police, but this advert was really trying to get people to see terrorism everywhere, like everytime a man with slightly dark skin looks at a CCTV camera for too long as if he’s casing the joint for how it works etc etc.

Put it another way, rather than make me feel reassured and safe, it made me more paranoid and suspicious.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 12:12

#17

Gav wrote:

And you wonder if that is the desired intention…

Using fear to control? its starting to sound less and less like crackpot conspiracy theory and more like a plausable government policy.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 12:23

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Dennis (Dudley Less) wrote:

It reminded me of the old nuclear bomb warning films from when I was a kid in the 80’s.

I mean, what really were the chances of us getting bombed to fuck by Russia back then? Nil? Just a way of scaring us enough that we didn’t question our country’s hostility to that nation. Same with this, I reckon. Turn everyone into a raving xenophobe and we are fine to carry on fucking around in Iraq/ Guantanama etc etc.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 12:34

#19

Gav wrote:

Yet the government flat out refuses to release the details as to why we went into iraq in the first place.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 12:44

#20

msd wrote:

deadsetgav wrote:

And you wonder if that is the desired intention…

Using fear to control? its starting to sound less and less like crackpot conspiracy theory and more like a plausable government policy.

Sure it is. Keep the population in a state of terror so that they accept whatever fascist laws you want to introduce, and also to get the population to support wars (wars to gain control of strategic areas rich in natural resources).

At least people seem to be waking up to all this though. Question is, what are you going to do about it?

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 12:51 in reply to an earlier post

#21

Gav wrote:

Move

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 12:58

#22

msd wrote:

Heh heh, I had that idea too ;-)

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 13:00

#23

Cuchulain wrote:

mr self destruct wrote:

Sure it is. Keep the population in a state of terror so that they accept whatever fascist laws you want to introduce, and also to get the population to support wars (wars to gain control of strategic areas rich in natural resources).

Sure worked in the US of A for decades ! Just don’t look at where it got them now.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 13:13 in reply to an earlier post

#24

msd wrote:

The elite are doing very well out of it now

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 13:34

#25

Old twat wrote:

mr self destruct wrote:

What are your odds?

It’s a cert so I won’t take your money you lucky chap you.

Anyway, never has War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength seemed so apt as in the last 7 years. Anyone who cannot see through this shit needs arresting and a stint in some gulag north of Shetland. We all remember laughing at those coloured warnings permanantly on show below those American newsreaders a few years ago. You know, Green alert, orange alert, red alert etc etc just to keep everyones mind on topic and the population paranoid.

I like to think the British are a bit brighter than our government take us for when it comes to sniffing out bullshit. We’ll wait and see I suppose.

Posted on Wed, 25 March 2009 at 21:03 in reply to an earlier post

#26

Gav wrote:

The total appathy to what is going on right under our noses is unbelievable.

Its not even like they are trying hard to disguise it any more… its like

“We’re putting this camera up outside your house so we can see what you are doing, oh and we are going to be listening to your phone conversations…”

“um… why are you doing that?”

“uh… um… there might be Terrorists! its for your own good - would you rather be DEAD????”

Posted on Thu, 26 March 2009 at 08:37

#27

Old twat wrote:

Perpetual war is the only thing that’ll keep our economies rumbling along I fear. Tis a horribly perfect circle.

Posted on Thu, 26 March 2009 at 10:48

#28

Gav wrote:

Sky News have spent all week lining up the next conflict for us:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Pakistan-Terror-Threa … fghanistan _Evidence_Suggests%2C_Taliban_Seem_Ever_Stronger

Posted on Thu, 26 March 2009 at 10:55

#29

Pip (Philip Kelly) wrote:

You have to love the propaganda taking away freedoms with fear and spending taxes on complete bollocks what a fucked-up world we live in.

Posted on Thu, 26 March 2009 at 13:16

#30

! (Fuzzeh) wrote:

Oh noe it’s that G0r0d0n cl00n Br00n again and his evil tax-increasing-politically-incorrect-human-rights-civil-camera-stealing schemes!!

Posted on Thu, 26 March 2009 at 13:37

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