#31
msd wrote:
I would be interesting to hear from the band what their reasons were for doing it.
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 08:56
#32
msd wrote:
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 08:56
#33
Gav wrote:
zero nero wrote:
deadset…simplified…thats exactly what they have been peddling to the likes of you for ever…
There are British armed forces stationed all over the world, there are bases in Cyprus, Gibraltar, Germany, the Falklands, N Ireland - not just in Afghanistan / Iraq. There are cooks, drivers, doctors, engineers, administrative / logistics staff, wives and kids - or have I got it wrong and the only people who are in the forces are the people who sign up to go off abroad to kill Afghan / Iraqi women and children?
And thanks for educating me on the soldiers right to pick and choose which orders they follow - I had no idea that it was so simple - even with all the media / government propaganda that I swallow at every opportunity.
I’m not debating the legality / morality of the war in Afghanistan / Iraq, or some of the rather dubious postings that the UK armed forces have undertaken - but the fault lies with the politicians (who we elect), not the (under-equiped) kids we send over there to fight.
Sometimes I think my job is shitty, but I’m not being paid £22k to be shot at and blown up.
zero nero wrote:
but i’m not and having listened to therapy? since 1992 and having purchased everything since then, i think its ok for me to speak my mind,
Sorry - I missed that bit, didn’t realise you had been listening for so long, my bad. Of course you have earned the right to dictate what the band should/shouldn’t be doing.
zero nero wrote:
u will never know what i do in my spare time…
I can see what you do in your spare time, exactly the same thing as me! - come on the internet and talk out of your arsehole - except I do it for fun ;)
zero nero wrote:
u going to the recruitment office tomorrow??
For sure - but I’m only going to fight the good wars, you know the ones where you get to hand out food to starving kids…
I’m not sure this thread hasn’t got the faint whiff of a troll.
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 08:56 in reply to an earlier post
#34
Gav wrote:
sp wrote:
It would be interesting to hear from the band what their reasons were for doing it.
To keep the death count up obviously, those bloodthirsty grunts will be getting proper pumped whilst rocking out to ‘knives’ - another thousand women and children dead!
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 08:58 in reply to an earlier post
#35
Fiona (Fiona Lamont) wrote:
I’m guessing the band did this because there are guys and girls in the focres that that are T? fans just like the rest of us. No political agenda…not making a morla stance - just giving their fans something to enjoy.
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 09:46
#36
msd wrote:
deadsetgav wrote:
To keep the death count up obviously, those bloodthirsty grunts will be getting proper pumped whilst rocking out to ‘knives’ - another thousand women and children dead!
I googled the lyrics to Gimme Back My Brain (could’t really remember them, haven’t listened to Shameless for years) hoping to find some subversive lyrics, unfortunately I found these:
“I want to destroy everything I know”…”I’m scared of giving up and being a psychedelic peace creep” ;)
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 12:43 in reply to an earlier post
#37
CarlOfHellacious! (carl) wrote:
Fiona wrote:
I’m guessing the band did this because there are guys and girls in the focres that that are T? fans just like the rest of us. No political agenda…not making a morla stance - just giving their fans something to enjoy.
That is the most likely, and indeed best thing that has been said during this conversation.
Anyone know if MIKEHELL has anything to say on the subject? Or maybe they just did it for their fans?
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 13:28 in reply to an earlier post
#38
misspat (patricia) wrote:
it’s getting hot in here :-) but T? has their own reason for doing this and we have to accept that if we like it or not.
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 13:49
#39
bristarman (Brian) wrote:
1) Who said it was a session? Was it definitely a specially recorded piece rather than the original recording of the song?
2) Lots of BFBS stuff is sourced from the BBC.
3) It’s a radio station intended to keep the moral up for people doing their job. Do the broadcasters dictate war policy? Do Therapy? support this policy by appearing on the station? Of course not!
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 15:17
#40
soul doubt (an) wrote:
In reply on point 1 and 2: http://www.therapyquestionmark.co.uk/news/read.php?newsid=268
point 3, I agree. I don’t think Therapy? have to justify themselves towards their fans.
If Zero Nero chooses to turn his back on the band for this, it’s his right, I don’t think Therapy? will lie awake at night because of this “great” loss…
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 15:25
#41
Ronald wrote:
A minute ago I heard Straight Life on Gay FM…I guess Therapy? hate all heterosexual people now…
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 15:51
#42
Gav wrote:
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 17:35
#43
msd wrote:
I don’t think T? *have to* justify themselves but it would be interesting to hear their reasoning. I can understand where zero nero is coming from, though he should have asked his questions/raised his points a bit less aggressively before knowing what lay behind T?’s decision.
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 17:37
#44
CarlOfHellacious! (carl) wrote:
Ronald wrote:
A minute ago I heard Straight Life on Gay FM…I guess Therapy? hate all heterosexual people now…
So I wasn’t the only one listening…oops
:)
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 20:14 in reply to an earlier post
#45
Citizen Erased (confused again) wrote:
zero nero wrote:
Judge me and my posts by your own standards
I say this as someone who’s read your posts and thinks they come across as nothing more than a load of distilled tabloid hyperbole but lack much in terms of coherent argument. Didn’t agree with the war in Iraq, but kinda think the blame for that lies with Mr Blair rather than the Forces themselves. That said, if a few other governments hadn’t blocked the UN from taking action, Britain, the US and Spain wouldn’t have held and ‘illegal’ war, there’d (possibly) have been no 7/7. Then again, if the UK had told the Shah of Iran to stop being so despotic, the whole Middle East politics would be different… it’s a complicated situation.
I also say this as someone who stops what he’s doing whenever Afghanistan comes on the news because someone I know is out there and I’d quite like it if he came back in one piece. Which makes the whole subject somewhat emotive. For a lot of people. Which again leads us back to a need for coherency.
Now, if you’ve stopped foaming, big deep breath and try to explain why you feel the way you do. Correct use of English may be unfashionable these days, but it does help. You may find it helps to do a little plan first.
Or, better still be like Gav. His posts have cheered me up with their sheer profound crudeness so many times, its not funny, Even when it is. :-)
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 23:00 in reply to an earlier post
Last edited by hoochalobster on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 23:26 (Removed off-topic content)
#46
CarlOfHellacious! (carl) wrote:
Has this got into the realms of personal insults yet? I’m sure thats against the boards rules??
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 23:22
#47
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
It is, so keep to the subject at hand and don’t start hurling abuse, mkay?
Posted on Mon, 9 November 2009 at 23:27
#48
CarlOfHellacious! (carl) wrote:
Posted on Tue, 10 November 2009 at 00:15
#49
! (Fuzzeh) wrote:
This thread seems completely unnecessary to me.
Just saying.
Posted on Tue, 10 November 2009 at 11:25
#50
zero nero wrote:
thread unnecassary.???! a bit like invading iraq fro WMD…y’all watching the superbowl, you cryin tears of patriotism for your interval act show of allied unity.
bottom line is, u live once. why obey orders? i just dont see why? if u believe wrong its wrong, just say no. suffer the consequences and get on with it. look at israeli pilots who refuse to fly bombing missions on palestine because of the casualties, they are in jail right now. they are real hero’s, just as some of the uk forces who said no!
It is entirely incompatible to disagree with the the conflict and support the participants who are engaged in that conflict. if u want to support them, demand them home.
and again where do you draw the line…were the SS just doing their job? obeying orders? (oh but in britain our boys could never be capable of brutality…bbbbbuuuuuuuuuullshit!) where ever Britain invades suffering follows. people accept responsibility for your actions and lives, it will be over before we know it and we cant change anything afterward.
last point, the company i worked for sold elearning to us force personnel. i resigned. do u want to be a pawn or a human, u only live once.
Posted on Mon, 7 February 2011 at 02:16
#51
Gav wrote:
u only live once, what better way to spend it than trolling on the internet.
Well done that man!
Posted on Mon, 7 February 2011 at 08:04
#52
caffeinebomb (Caffeine Bomb) wrote:
Sweet Jesus, did that guy ever find his lost Prozac?
Entertaining though the lunatic fringe conspiracy theorists are, I see we have little option but to believe our government and intelligence agencies if they say there are justifiable reasons to go to war. It may be unpalatable and it may not be the easiest thing to do, but how many 7/7’s have been stopped through the course of the military action? I know some people in the intelligence community, and although they never discuss their work, I know they work incredibly long hours and can be very busy.
As for the poor soldiers - I was on a train with 2 lads from Blackburn going to sign up for the first time recently - both about 17 - lovely guys, energetic, funny, genuine and excited. They’ll (hopefully) come out of the army well disciplined, trained and mature. much better than lurking in bus shelters smoking ratty fags through nicotine stained fingers and drinking cheap white cider. What would they do if they didn’t go into the army? Well there’s no jobs, and they can’t afford to go to Uni (who can?) so for them it is a viable career. I don’t fancy it myself, but all the more credit to them for doing it.
As for the Therapy? lads and their involvement in the war - let’s hark back to Not in Any Name from High Anxiety for a moment, the chorus speaks for itself and
“My Grandfather, was cannon fodder, to think he died for the likes of you” is pretty self-explanatory too. I don’t think you can even remotely claim that T? are pro-war.
I’m glad you’ve expressed your opinion and it’s provoked a rather deeper debate than the usual range of farting, telly and nonsense, but I think there are some big inaccuracies in what you’re claiming.
Posted on Mon, 7 February 2011 at 18:24
