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Petition to have the song “Shameless” released

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Started by Epitome (Dave) in General Therapy? Topics

This might interest me more than most, as I seem to like the album Shameless more than many T? fans, but join me in my request for the unreleased would-be-title-track to see the light of day.

Even just as an MP3, be it free or to buy - I’d love to hear it!

And might as well get BSF out to us as well!

Who’s with me?

Posted on Fri, 13 November 2009 at 17:15

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drummerbecca (Becca) wrote:

BSF?

Posted on Fri, 13 November 2009 at 18:34

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

Blood Sucking Freaks, I think it stands for. Another unreleased track from the Shameless era. A cover song, I forget who did it originally (not a song I’m familiar with).

Posted on Fri, 13 November 2009 at 18:52

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Matthias (Matthias Pfeil) wrote:

I think very often about this 2 songs.
Would be great to hear them.
Andy mentioned Shameless sounds similar to Nowhere.
But I think the rights have the record company.

Posted on Fri, 13 November 2009 at 19:09

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RoyBatty (Steve) wrote:

I’m with you, my brother. More B-sides!!

Posted on Fri, 13 November 2009 at 22:54

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

Well whoever has the rights… there’s no point in having those songs just sitting there not being heard - they might as well sit in my ears whilst I rock out. Or something like that.

I say, if we don’t get them soon, we take to the streets!

Posted on Sat, 14 November 2009 at 08:14

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Super Hans (Dave) wrote:

I fucking love Shameless (album, never heard the song - i’m Inrigued!)

Posted on Sat, 14 November 2009 at 09:49

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

No one’s ever heard the song! It’s a crime! Surely it’s a cracker. Well, I suppose some people have heard it, but not us loyal fans. I plan to keep complaining until I get to hear it :-P

Posted on Sat, 14 November 2009 at 12:01

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g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:

whilst we’re at demanding unheard unreleased songs i’d like to add plebians to the list.

Posted on Sun, 15 November 2009 at 21:29

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CarlOfHellacious! (carl) wrote:

I would be happy for anything unreleased!

Posted on Sun, 15 November 2009 at 22:23

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mfgeorge wrote:

BSF is a Black Halos song
rights for both songs are owned by Sub Pop

I highly doubt Sub Pop will ever release this, even in mp3 form.
The only chance is for T? or their record company to buy the rights back.

Posted on Sun, 15 November 2009 at 22:25

Last edited by hoochalobster on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 00:56 (Correction requested by poster)

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mfgeorge’s post on Sun, 15 November 2009 at 22:26 was deleted by hoochalobster (Message to moderator)

#12

Epitome (Dave) wrote:

But I need to hear the song Shameless.

I agree, any unreleased stuff would be nice, it’s just that song is top of my list.

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 09:19

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soul doubt (an) wrote:

mfgeorge wrote:

BSF is a Black Halos song
rights for both songs are owned by Sub Pop

If I remember correclty they also recorded 2 other Black Halos songs, and Blach Halos recorded 3 Therapy? songs shortly after Semi-Detached for a split cd that was never released (probably because A&M got closed down?)

I would love to hear more unreleased tracks than just Shameless :)

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 09:56 in reply to an earlier post

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vagabond wrote:

i would of course love to listen to all those songs, so hereby i sign the petition!

i would also like to hear the black halo’s take on the t?-songs as i quite like the halos too!

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 11:03

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

I haven’t heard the Black Halos before, but it’s a shame that split never got released.

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 12:03

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mfgeorge wrote:

soul doubt wrote:

If I remember correclty they also recorded 2 other Black Halos songs, and Blach Halos recorded 3 Therapy? songs shortly after Semi-Detached for a split cd that was never released (probably because A&M got closed down?)
I would love to hear more unreleased tracks than just Shameless :)

T? recorded an original & a Black Halos cover
Black Halos recorded an original & a T? cover

All 4 were to be released on a 7” for Sub Pops monthly 7” club, but the Black Halos got dropped by Sub Pop and so all four songs are in Sup Pops vault.

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 17:12 in reply to an earlier post

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mfgeorge wrote:

Seems I’m wrong about the Sub Pop vault thing, as per an old discusison on here:
http://www.therapyquestionmark.co.uk/wallofmouths/discussions/1730/

Seems to me Ark21 would therefore have the rights to the T? songs, while Sup Pop would have the Black Halos songs.
In case you’re wondering and don’t feel like searching the WOM for it, Black Halos covered Lonely Crying Only,

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 17:23

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bristarman (Brian) wrote:

I’m sure the bands involved have a copy of the songs - couldn’t a member accidentally leak them? (Mikehell).

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 18:06

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

“I’m sure the bands involved have a copy of the songs - couldn’t a member accidentally leak them?” - now THAT sounds like a plan ;-)

“T? recorded an original & a Black Halos cover”
So which song was the original they recorded? Was that Shameless? Or is it another that we don’t even know the title of? Whatever the case, talking about all this is making me want it even more!

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 18:12

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Taunty Dan wrote:

To be honest i’m thinking some songs go unreleased for a reason…

Posted on Mon, 16 November 2009 at 19:48

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mfgeorge wrote:

Epitome wrote:

So which song was the original they recorded? Was that Shameless? Or is it another that we don’t even know the title of? Whatever the case, talking about all this is making me want it even more!

Yes, Shameless & BSF by T?
Unknown & Lonely, Crying Only by the Black Halos

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 04:06 in reply to an earlier post

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

Taunty Dan wrote:

To be honest i’m thinking some songs go unreleased for a reason…

Yeah, but even if they’re not very good I’d like to hear them. Can’t be any worse than Polar Bear anywhere.

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 08:31 in reply to an earlier post

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soul doubt (an) wrote:

:o Take it back!!! Polar Bear is an amazing song!

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 08:34

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

And anyway, in the case of this Black Halos split, it seems the songs weren’t released due to one of those bands being dropped, so no indication that the songs themselves couldn’t be great.

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 08:38

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Simon (Simon) wrote:

soul doubt wrote:

If I remember correclty they also recorded 2 other Black Halos songs, and Blach Halos recorded 3 Therapy? songs shortly after Semi-Detached for a split cd that was never released (probably because A&M got closed down?)

I thought this E.P was done during the recording of Shameless so would be Ark and sub pop.. as The Balck Halos helped out during shameless? but i could be wrong?

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 08:41 in reply to an earlier post

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Epitome (Dave) wrote:

soul doubt wrote:

:o Take it back!!! Polar Bear is an amazing song!

Worst Therapy? song ever, surely - the tune goes nowhere, considering it’s relatively long (for that album). And the lyrics seem pointless to me, but maybe I’m missing something.

I’d say it’s closely followed by Tango Romeo - what’s he on about sneaking in his pants for?

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 08:41 in reply to an earlier post

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Simon (Simon) wrote:

I would say Deep sleep is one of their worst songs but that is just me… Polar Bear and Tango Romeo i’m quite fond of myself.

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 08:43

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caffeinebomb (Caffeine Bomb) wrote:

Polar Bear is awesome, the key is in the repetition and build, it’s a slow burner with a spectacular ending eruption. The lyrics add to the build and boredom as it picks up and the end portion of the song sonicallly represents the Polar Bear losing it’s mind, freaking out and tearing the face off its keeper.

Or something.

I’m always up for new music - I’ve been listening to a lot of early 90s B-sides and it’s like they released a new album, it’s awesome. I’ve heard them before but not for ages.

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 08:57

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Gav wrote:

Divers wrote:

I would say Deep sleep is one of their worst songs but that is just me… Polar Bear and Tango Romeo i’m quite fond of myself.

Deep Sleep is fucking rubbish. I think they only managed to go worse with Body Bag Girl which sounds like a shit Gary Glitter cover… Voodoo Doll is in the bottom 3 for me too.

Polar Bear I can take or leave - I hated it on record at first but after hearing it live I liked it slightly more (slightly)

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 10:07 in reply to an earlier post

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! (Fuzzeh) wrote:

*releases hounds!* I like Deep Sleep a lot.

Release all the unreleased songs too. :p

Posted on Tue, 17 November 2009 at 10:59

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