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#61

Citizen Erased (confused again) wrote:

Is it worth doing your own? I do appreciate really nice marmalade with lots of peel in it. Do you need a really big thing to cook it up in (hve memories of my mother making jam in a huge great thing about the size of a small bath)?

Posted on Mon, 12 December 2011 at 10:11

#62

chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:

I expect it depends on how much you want to make!! A decent sized pot would do if you just want to try it out.

Mr Hoppy sent me some of his home made last year, and it was a lot better than any from the shops, so thats why i’m gonna give it a go.

Posted on Mon, 12 December 2011 at 11:14

#63

Citizen Erased (confused again) wrote:

I’m tempted. I wonder if many rock bands have this kind of discussion on the websites.

Posted on Mon, 12 December 2011 at 13:44

#64

Cuchulain wrote:

Cooked a big pot of mussels the other day in the usual brew of veg , cream and white wine.
Going through the fridge I found some garlic sauce that came with the pizza the night before and a can of Campbells mushroom soup and decided to throw both of those in as well.
Finished off with a good squeeze of lemon juice and the result was amazing , really nice taste it had.

You wouldn’t see Gordon or Jamie come up with these spectactular inventions !

Posted on Mon, 12 December 2011 at 17:15

#65

MisterHoppy wrote:

^ I’ve made many stews that involved cans of mushroom soup, and ketchup, and even frozen oven chips, all tasted beautiful.

Posted on Thu, 15 December 2011 at 18:59

#66

MisterHoppy wrote:

chr1s wrote:

I expect it depends on how much you want to make!! A decent sized pot would do if you just want to try it out.

Mr Hoppy sent me some of his home made last year, and it was a lot better than any from the shops, so thats why i’m gonna give it a go.

Not quite true that is it Chr1s ;-) My dad’s was all good for you but mine was a bit too tailored to my own tastes (plus it was ‘matured’ for 14 months or so before it got to you) - read as bitter and tangy as hell! Anyway I’ll put up a recipe that’ll come out like my dad’s before January as that’s when the Servilles appear in the shops.
CE: A preserving pan is the one that’s like a small bath, but you don’t need one, I use a pressure cooker as it helps speed up the first stage and then just use it without the lid for the rest of the process. But I would say there’s probably a minimum amount that’s worth making, you can probably get away with just a lb of Servilles, but then you need 1 sweet orange and 1 lemon plus 2lb of sugar as well and it’s going to bubble up as it boils so have you got a big saucepan (somewhere over 3 litres)?

Posted on Thu, 15 December 2011 at 19:08 in reply to an earlier post

#67

chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:

Ah, I forgot it was your dads that I prefered! I’m not gonna make loads for the first time, so that amount will probably be good. Enough for a few jars, and enough to send you some to see what you think of it would do nicely. If its a success, I could always make more.

Posted on Thu, 15 December 2011 at 19:18

#68

MisterHoppy wrote:

Marmalade Recipe:

For ingredients it’s easier if I give the ratios: For every 1lb (that’s 454g for those not afflicted by random UK weights) of Seville oranges you need: 1 sweet orange, 1 lemon and 2lb of sugar. That’s it, but I wouldn’t have thought much less than 2lb of Sevilles is worth it.

Going to give the method in stages, as these can be done and then left, until the next day if needed.

Stage 1: Put fruit (sevilles on the bottom as they’ve got the thickest skins) in a pan with a lid, I use a pressure cooker but it doesn’t matter. Add some water, enough to come a couple of inches up the pan, stick lid on and bring to the boil. Cook until soft but NOT so they’re dissolving, should be able to feel them go a bit squishy if you give them a poke (with a wooden spoon unless you’ve got heatproof fingers), keep an eye on the water level during cooking, add some more if it’s getting low. Leave to cool (Can be overnight if you want).

Stage 2: Get a pyrex or ceramic dish (like a lasagne dish or summat) to put the peel in. Get another saucepan and remove the fruit into that but leave the water in the first pan. Take an orange and cut it into half or quarters (find quarters easier), then using a spoon the idea is to remove as much as possible of the fruit and (this is the hard bit) the pith from the orange, just leaving peel (it’ll never be perfect, you’ll never get off all of the pith but the more the better). As you do this put the fruit, pips and pith into the pan with the cooking liquid and the peel into the dish. The servilles are easiest as the peel is so thick, the sweet oranges and lemons can be a bastard and keep ripping but just keep on until they’re all done (this is the hardest / most time consuming / most annoying bit). If you’re not going to do stage 3 right after then cover the pan and the dish of peel.

Stage 3:
Put the pan of fruit, pith and water on to boil, if it needs a bit more water then add some, depends how juicy the oranges were. Then leave it to boil for an hour or so, add more water if it’s losing too much as steam. The idea of this is the Pectin that sets the marmalade is in the pith and pips, so boiling it releases it into the liquid. Whilst this is boiling take a sharp knife and cut the peel into strips, as thick or thin and long or short as you like, you could even throw it away and have just jelly marmalade (but you would be a heathen if you did!). Once the boiling is over allow to cool a bit and then stick a colander over the pan you intend on actually making the marmalade in and tip the pan into the colander, leave to drain for an hour or so before throwing away what’s left in the colander (I like to give it a bit of a final press with a pan lid first, get any last bits!)

Stage 4: Start to heat the liquid, add the peel to the liquid (if you feel like you’ve way too much liquid then boil some of it off first before adding the peel but it’s not very likely), stir well to mix and bring to the boil. Start adding sugar, stirring as you go,, do this fairly SLOWLY as if you tip a couple of lbs of sugar straight in it tends to go into a ball and is a bit of a bastard to break up. Once you’ve got all the sugar in and combined then boil until setting point is reached. To check this get a plate, drop a small spoonful of marmalade onto the plate and leave for 5 minutes, if it doesn’t slide when you hold the plate at an angle and has a skin on the top it’s ready. Turn off the heat and as soon as it’s cool enough pot into clean sterilised jars. Done.

PS: When it’s boiling with the sugar it will be over 100 degrees C - Be Careful!

To sterilise glass jars fill with boiling water, leave for a minute, empty and then put in a very low oven to dry.

You can pot half of it up and then add some chopped stem ginger to the rest if you like (I actually ended up using some belvoir ginger cordial last time - worked well).

Posted on Wed, 4 January 2012 at 20:15

#69

MisterHoppy wrote:

Forgot the FIRST STEP - Wash all the fruit really well, give it a scrub with a brush if you’ve got one. Also probably worth getting unwaxed lemons as you’re going to be eating the peel.
I know it seems like a lot but can be broken down into:
Wash fruit and boil until soft, leave to cool, reserve cooking water.
Remove flesh and pith from peel, reserve peel, add flesh, pips and pith to cooking water.
Boil flesh, pips and water for an hour or so, then strain and keep liquid, discard flesh etc.
Cut peel as desired.
Add peel to liquid, bring to boil and add sugar.
Boil until setting point reached, cool slightly, pot.

Posted on Wed, 4 January 2012 at 20:21

#70

MisterHoppy wrote:

If anyone is feeling really brave then when you only have a jars worth left in the pan to pot up add some finely chopped chilli to it, how much is up to you.

Posted on Wed, 4 January 2012 at 20:22

#71

MisterHoppy wrote:

EDIT function would be nice

Also forgot that when you do stage 1 the fruit shouldn’t be bobbing about in water, you want a couple of inches up the pan and the fruit mostly steams, hence a tightly fitting lid helps a lot.

Posted on Wed, 4 January 2012 at 20:25

#72

grahamt wrote:

my mother used to make marmalade every year at this time,loved marmalade now six years since she past i used the last of her homemade marmlade 2 years ago, it broke my heart when it was finished but cant complain that it lasted 4 years

Posted on Wed, 4 January 2012 at 20:57

#73

chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:

Cheers Mr H!! I’ll probably try and get the stuff tomorrow and tackle making it at the weekend. :)

Posted on Thu, 5 January 2012 at 10:53

#74

MisterHoppy wrote:

Seems I’ve said both 1lb and 2lb of sevilles is the minimum - should be OK with just 1lb, 1 sweet orange, 1 lemon and 2lb of sugar, but don’t bother with the Jam sugar as it seems to cost lots more for no difference I can notice, maybe it’s got added Pectin or something (which you don’t need for this).

Posted on Thu, 5 January 2012 at 17:25

#75

chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:

Tried to get sevilles today, but couldn’t find any. Both asda and tesco only had the tins of pre cut sevilles. Going into town tomorrow, so I’ll try a couple of places then.

Posted on Thu, 5 January 2012 at 18:13

#76

chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:

Managed to find some sevilles today and got them cooking away just now. :)

Posted on Fri, 6 January 2012 at 14:15

#77

chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:

The result of my marmalade making efforts. Quite pleased with it considering it’s a first attempt. And it’s really easy to do!! :)

http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww9/chr1s_t/fbf69b14.jpg

Posted on Sun, 8 January 2012 at 11:50

#78

Gav wrote:

Jeez Chris, what are you? a 70yr old woman?

Posted on Sun, 8 January 2012 at 12:52

#79

MisterHoppy wrote:

Looks good Chr1s, some nice work there!

Posted on Tue, 10 January 2012 at 14:15

#80

MisterHoppy wrote:

Despite starting with 3lb (or so) of sevilles I’ve ended up with less than you Chris - went for 1:1 sugar, should be interesting (and possibly very bitter, although it tasted sweet enough while it was still in the pan), got 7x340g jars, might have to make another batch.

Posted on Wed, 1 February 2012 at 21:19

#81

man-fish (Sean McLastname) wrote:

Bought a lovely new casserole pan, an addition to the ever-expanding list of stuff my flatmate isn’t allowed to use (including my Sabatier knives).

Becoming a cook (I kind of loathe to call myself a chef when doing pub grub) changed my attitude at home a bit. For the first few months I really hated having to come home and cook, but lately I’ve really enjoyed it and I’ve been experimenting a lot and trying to get the most out of flavours (being so poorly paid). Working in a kitchen has done wonders for my sense of timing, if nothing else.

I’ll dig up some of my favourite French recipes and post them on here soon. There’s a lovely creamy sauce with white wine and mustard which has been really valuable to me, taught me a lot of transferable skills (especially cooking with wine properly) which I use every day now.

Posted on Wed, 1 February 2012 at 22:35

#82

MisterHoppy wrote:

Lion Sabatier? or V Sabatier or the other Sabatier (if I remember rightly when the kids inherited the business they all fell out and it got split into 3 companies). Can you get hold of rabbit - because that sauce will go beautifully with it :-) and it’s cheap!

Posted on Wed, 1 February 2012 at 22:56

#83

man-fish (Sean McLastname) wrote:

Prestige, I think. Probably not the best but still the best I’ve ever owned.

I heard you can get some at Waitrose. There are some great butchers around here too so I might look out, although my girlfriend might never forgive me for cooking bunny.
The original recipe called for pork fillets cooked slowly. Bloody lovely.

Tried making it tonight for pasta, flatmate put his fresh coffee in the fridge, my cream (and the sauce) tasted like coffee. Unimpressed.

Posted on Thu, 2 February 2012 at 00:20

#84

Citizen Erased (confused again) wrote:

Waitrose and Sainsbury’s both moderately decent for game these days, provided you don’t want any of the venison cuts they manage to source from somewhere on Masterchef (hello to Allen’s of Mayfair!)

It was a long time before my g/f was allowed to touch my knives (or hide them, arf), but its been made clear that if they go in the dishwasher me and her are going to have serious words and she’ll be sleeping in the spare room.

Posted on Thu, 2 February 2012 at 09:51

#85

Cuchulain wrote:

Chris , at a total guess are you by any chance a big fan of Masterchef on the telly as well ? ;)

Posted on Thu, 2 February 2012 at 12:45

#86

MisterHoppy wrote:

man-fish wrote:

Prestige, I think. Probably not the best but still the best I’ve ever owned.

I heard you can get some at Waitrose. There are some great butchers around here too so I might look out, although my girlfriend might never forgive me for cooking bunny.
The original recipe called for pork fillets cooked slowly. Bloody lovely.

Tried making it tonight for pasta, flatmate put his fresh coffee in the fridge, my cream (and the sauce) tasted like coffee. Unimpressed.

The fridge does fuck all good for coffee, despite the advice to store it there on most packets, just keeps longer, put it in an airtight jar (and open it every few days as fresh ground coffee releases gasses)
Also if rabbit is going to cause issues (why do people have trouble eating things that ”look cute” but are happy to eat chicken etc?) use that sauce with some tarragon in for pan cooked chicken thighs (again cheap and much tastier than chicken breast), but if you’re going for rabbit then try your butchers first (I can get them free from people who clear them so you could try that but then they come whole and the skinning, gutting and jointing is messy and takes too long).

Posted on Thu, 2 February 2012 at 18:44 in reply to an earlier post

#87

chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:

Cuchulain wrote:

Chris , at a total guess are you by any chance a big fan of Masterchef on the telly as well ? ;)

I am. But I can’t cook to that level!!

Posted on Thu, 2 February 2012 at 18:51 in reply to an earlier post

#88

MisterHoppy wrote:

man-fish wrote:

although my girlfriend might never forgive me for cooking bunny.

Got to ask the same girl?
*Expects string of abuse*

Posted on Thu, 2 February 2012 at 19:13 in reply to an earlier post

#89

man-fish (Sean McLastname) wrote:

That’s the one. Funny how things work out.

It was a case of everybody else figuring it out before we did, because we’re stupid.

Posted on Thu, 2 February 2012 at 21:44

#90

Citizen Erased (confused again) wrote:

Awwwww

Andy and Aki are my bets for two of the three Masterched finalists this year

Posted on Fri, 3 February 2012 at 09:45

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