Wall of Mouths

I would really like a Troublegum re-issue a la Everything Must Go / Holy Bible in a hardback triple gatefold digipack

Disc 1 : Troublegum remastered - with new liner notes and photos etc

Disc 2 : B sides and rarities - ShortSharpShock, Opal Mantra, Trigger Inside and Nowhere B Sides for example

Disc 3 : DVD of Andy Michael and Chris Sheldon discussing the making of the CD plus live footage from the time e.g TOTP, etc.

If they release this in 2014 - That would be EPIC

Nice idea Squall!!
Are you taking notice Mikehell?? :)

This is the best - freshest - Therapy? album I’ve heard in a while! It’s SO different yet so T? !

Currently I’m in love with Marlow, Ecclesiates and Ghost Trio and this is only my 2nd spin. I even love Plague Bell & Buzzing, considering that many people dislike those songs. No fillers, just great songs! BRAVO THERAPY?
Been your fan since Opal Mantra! Hope to see you again in Serbia! :D

Squall wrote:

I would really like a Troublegum re-issue a la Everything Must Go / Holy Bible in a hardback triple gatefold digipack

Disc 1 : Troublegum remastered - with new liner notes and photos etc

Disc 2 : B sides and rarities - ShortSharpShock, Opal Mantra, Trigger Inside and Nowhere B Sides for example

Disc 3 : DVD of Andy Michael and Chris Sheldon discussing the making of the CD plus live footage from the time e.g TOTP, etc.

If they release this in 2014 - That would be EPIC

That’s the spirit!

Yeah, you’re right actually. Troublegum is a sonically excellent album which doesn’t need adjusting.

How about the 2nd disk have the b-sides tacked on after the Troublegum pre-production demo’s? Would be nice to hear the album tracks “looser” as they probably were before they recorded them again a few weeks/months later specifically for the album.

Still loving the buzzing, dead hand and Marlow especially…starj raving sane i believe is the “weakest” song on there but it may grow. I have played Marlow over and over its so wierd i hate intrumentals !!!!

MisterHoppy wrote:

Seeing as were going with pipe-dreams hows about just an instrumental album?
Although just the Full version of magic mountain would do, and vinyl editions of SPYF, Shameless, NANE and OCFA please.

instrumental album, in the style of Magic Mountain, with full MM version included, would be amazing…
and vinyl of SPYF, Shameless and NANE would be great… HA and OCFA would be accepted too!

All of these sound great, like the idea of the pre-production demos, that would be great. Think we’re quite likely to hear a very electronic T? record at some point in the future though, which would be fine by me.
Also they could do what quite a lot of bands have been doing recently: post up the component tracks for a song (bass, drums and guitar(s)) separately on Soundcloud and ask the fans to do remixes - their favourite becomes a b-side on the single. Certainly be interesting.

Got it yesterday in the post. Jewel case was shattered, (thanks to whomever, most likely USPS) but the CD was golden. Fucking awesome album throughout, particularly on a good pair of headphones. Yeah, I’m that old. :-)

It’s a bit like CT but “deeper and darker,” as Andy promised. But, Man Alive, it’s dreary in parts, never boring, but fucking downward, no? Am I maybe the only one that thinks Plague Bell may be an unapologetic “fuck you” to people that hope for Troublegum II: Electric Boogaloo? Marlow is definitely MM lite. But, I think that’s why I like it. 4 mins of wanking into guitars (with some nice choral vox as well) beats the shit outta 10+. Or, so the wife tells me.

The Buzzing is a fanfuckingtastic mindfucker. And aren’t Ghost Trio, Why Turbulence and Stark Raving Sane the best 1-2 jab and right cross anyone could ask for? Great album!

Have to disagree with most of you here. Got the album on the day of release and it’s another disappointment for me I’m afraid. I really disliked Crooked Timber, unfortunately ABCOL mines the same territory. In a nutshell, sparse production, lack of any spark, Mr Cairns sounds disinterested (His performances from track to track are largely interchangable), little or no memorable hooks (And yeah, that’s a valid point, Therapy? are largely a band you associate with writing a good hook)

Admittedly, things get off to a great start with Living in the Shadow of The Terrible Thing, but it’s largely downhill from there. Plague Bell is passable, then we have the bizarre Marlow whichever way you look at doesn’t sound at home on this record. I listen to a lot of instrumental/post-rock bands and Marlow is well short of the mark for an instrumental piece. Sounds like something the lads were fucking around with at a jam and only half finished.

Before You With You After you picks up things briefly, kinda reminds me of something from the Semi-Detached era. Nice.

The Buzzing is the worst song Therapy? have ever commited to tape.

Of the latter half of the album, for me, only Get Your Dead Hand off My shoulder is worth mentioning, the rest of the tracks are really not very memorable at all - I’m looking at you Why Turbulence?

Ecclesiastes deserves a mention for being especially uneventful too, meandering along and allowing the album to limp off into the atmosphere.

I think Therapy are capable of much better, they’ve proven that time and time again but this album is a 4/10 for me. If the fans got to vote for a Therapy? Setlist I don’t think there’d be too many counts for tracks from this record.

La la la I can’t hear you all!

Amazon have said its dispatched but I won’t know if the postman’s brought it until tonight :-(

Yes it doesn’t fit with the sound of the rest of the album - but for me where the rest of the album seems to be about the darkness of the fleeting nature of existence Marlowe seems to say: I’m alive and despite all of the shit associated with that it’s great to be alive!
Personally I don’t feel all instrumental music needs to have a climax, lots I listen to doesn’t, lots does but the fairly standard post-rock template of 8 minutes+ of quiet-loud-quiet-loud or just quiet-louder-louder-loud! doesn’t have to be followed (not saying that’s what you’re saying, just that’s partly why I enjoy the song). Anyway agree to disagree, I thought Crooked Timber was fantastic and Magic Mountain as good an instrumental as I’d heard (Maybe Crawlspace by Caspian and Like Herod by Mogwai excepted) and this album isn’t quite as good but that’s just my take on it.

By the way, I hated Magic Mountain ha ha! I’m not just being pro-T? in my post above :-)

@ Mr Hoppy, sorry mate, not having a go at you but saw something you wrote earlier on and had to bring it up

“Ecclesiastes isn’t a rocking track but they’ve played Moment Of Clarity live and it’s never gone down badly”

A Moment of Clarity is one of the finest songs ever written, you can’t compare Ecclesiastes to it, especially as to how it would go down in a live setting.

Yes, you can compare if you wish. But to use two of Therapy?’s most revered tracks as a barometer for how well Ecclesiastes would go down in a live setting is preposterous.

Ecclesiastes would be met with nothing more than polite applause, and an exodus to the bar. Harsh but fact.

I’ve seen them do many non-rock tracks at this stage and they’ve gone down well, but the standard of those tracks has been much higher, that’s the problem I forsee with Ecclesiastes. One of my favourite Therapy? shows for example was in 1998 @ the Olympia in Dublin, they finished the set with The Boy’s Asleep from Semi-Detached, pure magic.