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Started by MisterHoppy

So in a few hours it begins and I can’t wait:

Will England actually play heads up rugby?
Will that work in freezing conditions at Murryfield?
Can Scotland score some tries?
Or will they have to wait for ‘The Flying Dutchman’ to qualify for residency in the summer?
Can Ireland win the thing without BOD?
Can Stephen Ferris stay fit for more than 2 weeks at a time?
Will France play like a team for more than 2 weeks in a row?
Or will they be their usual mix of sublime and batshit crazy?
Can Italy manage to beat anybody without Mallet in charge?
And will Marco Begamasco manage to go the whole tournament without committing assault on someone?
Can Wales play like they did at the world cup but actually win the big games this time?
Or will the fans claim their usual ‘moral victory’ (”If we had all our 1st choice players we’d have won easily” etc.)

And finally: Does anyone except me give a flying fuck? (I doubt it :-)

Posted on Sat, 4 February 2012 at 13:03

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CS (Colin S) wrote:

England don’t know how to play heads up rugby. Aviva Premiership is not the prettiest of leagues.
Scotland can’t score tries.
Tim Visser won’t make a massive difference - they still won’t score many tries
No, Ireland can’t win the 6N. We’re over-rated. Wales or France for me.
Stevie Ferris has been fit pretty much since before Xmas and has been on great form for Ulster. I hope Ireland don’t flog him during the 6N
Italy are improving. After hearing about how England & Scotland played today, they may even beat one of those two teams.

As for the ‘moral victory’, it’s like saying “If my auntie had balls…” - it’s not the case. You can only play what is in front of you!!

Posted on Sat, 4 February 2012 at 22:08

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CS (Colin S) wrote:

Also, I’m extremely disaffected at the Ireland set up. Mainly due to the omission of Dan Tuohy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVCbUqmyvnE) and Darren Cave

Posted on Sat, 4 February 2012 at 22:10

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MisterHoppy wrote:

Bloody hell, didn’t think I’d get any replies in this thread!

Cave is injured, not that Kidney would have selected him as with Tuohy (and Marshall), they don’t play in red or blue so not much chance - conservative fecker that kidney is!

Posted on Sat, 4 February 2012 at 22:13

#4

MisterHoppy wrote:

Oh and my tongue was lodged well and truly in my cheek for the Wales moral victory comment (not that I haven’t heard it from some of them!)
I can’t / won’t pay for sky so watch the rabbid league on bbc most of the time, Ulster look good this year, the spanking of Leicester being a high point.
Even with 1 working knee Ferris > O’Brien and that’s saying something.

Posted on Sat, 4 February 2012 at 22:19

#5

Citizen Erased (confused again) wrote:

Didn’t see any rugby yesterday but off to pub in a bit for Wales-Ireland

Posted on Sun, 5 February 2012 at 11:30

#6

Super Hans (Dave) wrote:

fuck sake

Posted on Sun, 5 February 2012 at 16:50

#7

MisterHoppy wrote:

What.A.Game!
Definite red for B.Davis, real conflicting emotions for that last kick by 1/2p: bit harsh penalty (probably correct by the letter of the law but I’d have been pissed if it was given against me) so wanted him to miss, then the crowd start booing and I’m thinking ‘go on, knock it over’.
Best game of the weekend, best game I’ve seen for awhile actually.

Posted on Sun, 5 February 2012 at 17:31

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CS (Colin S) wrote:

You’re right, Mr Hoppy, Cave is injured. Spence could also have played a part though.

Only seen a little bit of todays game - will catch it all on iPlayer tomorrow and give a detailed review. Heard Davis’ tackle was a shocker and that Ferris’ yellow was never a yellow!

Marshall will never get into the Ireland first XV / 22. Anyone who watched him play prior to Pienaar’s arrival knows that, although he has his little moments of genius, he’s also prone to making a few howlers and can be a little too keen. He’s matured massively under Pienaar though, and long may it continue from an Ulster perspective.

As for the Ferris / O’Brien issue - they both have their good / bad points. I think Ireland need a ‘proper’ 7 though to really compete internationally.

On a domestic POV (off topic, I know), Ulster have had some top results and were unlucky in Clermont. On the other hand, we’ve lost a couple of games we really should’ve won, considering the calibre of players we have. Leinster are absolutely unstopable. They’ll win the HEC this year.

Posted on Mon, 6 February 2012 at 03:16

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MisterHoppy wrote:

Don’t think Nevin offers any more than Mcfadden from what I’ve seen, Cave is one for the future though that’s for sure. Also re. Irish scrum halves since Stringer making a few howlers seems par for the course when they put on the green shirt - Reddan, O’Leary and Boss have all had their moments (intercept passes thrown without looking etc), Murray looks good so far so hopefully it won’t happen to him but I think Marshall has shown enough this season to have been in the Wolfhounds.
David Wallace has been a big miss for Ireland, O’Brien is excellent but isn’t a 7, totally agree regarding international teams needing one to compete nowadays.
Leinster might win the HC, certainly the team to beat, Munster will fancy their chances though (Gutted to see them beat my team Northampton with that ROG 85 minute 500 phase drop goal at Thomond park in the opening HEC game, they never give up and it really knocked our confidence in trying to play a more expansive game so we’ve reverted to type and other teams have worked that one out and the rest of our season has been shit)
Most teams in the AP aren’t that pretty, but Gloucester and Harlequinns are, they both play heads up rugby and have both beaten Toulouse this season, Sarries on the other hand are the most boring team in the history of rugby.

Posted on Mon, 6 February 2012 at 09:45

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CS (Colin S) wrote:

I haven’t seen enough of McFadden to comment on him. Although if he keeps Keith Earls ‘superstar’ out of the squad that’s good enough for me. On a serious note, Earls isn’t in the squad due to his daughter being in hospital - hope she and the family are ok.
Scrum half is a problem position for Ireland - and I don’t think Ireland have a solution at the moment. We’ll see how Murray goes, but I think Kidney will go back to Reddan / O’Leary. Marshall for Wolfhounds? Perhaps, but that’s too extreme for Kidney.
Munster are excellent at winning games they have no right to win.
I went to the Ulster QF last year in Milton Keynes v. Saints - great bunch of fans and a top day out, despite the result!

Posted on Mon, 6 February 2012 at 22:21

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Lenny wrote:

Murray is quality and improving with every game. A lot of poor performances last week - Need 3 or 4 new faces for Saturday but that wont happen. Thought D’Arcy and Bowe were particularly poor. Think McFadden would be good at 12

Posted on Tue, 7 February 2012 at 21:22

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CS (Colin S) wrote:

Dan Tuohy would be a good start, Lenny. Even without my Ulster bias, he’s a top player. The brief clips I’ve seen of the Ireland Wales game, O’Callaghan spent a bitt of time offside staring blankly at rucks

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2012 at 01:29

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MisterHoppy wrote:

O’Callaghan spent most of the game at the breakdown on the floor with his hands on the ball (mostly on wales ball) while Barnes called ‘release - release - release!’ for about 5 seconds and never penalised him or anyone else for it, so did O’Brien, and so did Tupric for the whole of the second half (Warburton is scarily good enough that if he was doing it it for that long I never noticed and I was looking!), with a different ref all 3 would have been pinged and spent time in the bin, good playing of the ref from both teams I thought as that’s what you have to do.

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2012 at 09:37

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MisterHoppy wrote:

Lenny wrote:

Murray is quality and improving with every game. A lot of poor performances last week - Need 3 or 4 new faces for Saturday but that wont happen. Thought D’Arcy and Bowe were particularly poor. Think McFadden would be good at 12

Roberts didn’t burst through D’Arse in the game though, which seeing as Sexton seemed to sit deep and kick the ball away most of the time was about all he could do (no idea why Sexton pretty much played the polar opposite to how he does for Leinster - I’m blaming Kidney for this). But I don’t think he’s been great for a few years now, probably time to look at others although IC is somewhere Ireland are a bit limited at the moment, McFadden, Fitz when he’s fit and… OC looks OK: Cave, Spence, O’Malley, even Bowe with Zebbo or Felix Jones (when fit) on the wing.
I’ve heard mention that Bowe is going to Ulster next season, now that would be good for them.Don’t believe the rumors of Kaino though!

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2012 at 09:55 in reply to an earlier post

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MisterHoppy wrote:

Off topic: I’ve just watched some of the Ulster press conference on the BBC website with Humphreys basically publicly knifing Mclaughlin IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON! While Ulster are still in the HEC and can make the playoffs in the Rabbid - WTF? I couldn’t watch all of it, Mclaughlin is basically a destroyed man and is still answering questions as best he can, if Humphreys wants to appoint a new coach it’s up to him but to do thisd in the middle of the season beggars belief - if next season doesn’t go well he’d better have the decency to resign.

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2012 at 10:31

#16

Fiona (Fiona Lamont) wrote:

Donkey Dan Parkes has retired from international rugby with immediate effect - I doubt he will be missed!

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2012 at 11:23

#17

MisterHoppy wrote:

To be honest Fiona if he’d gone at the end of the tournament I’d agree but this all stinks of Andy Robinson throwing him to the wolves to save his own arse, especially his comment of “It’s never an easy decision to make, but I feel Dan has made the right decision and thank him for his contribution over the years.”. As AR is the one who picked him time after time and Parks stood up and played every time he was asked to the statement of feeling Parks made the right decision after 1 game is pretty shite, but I’m becoming less and less impressed with AR lately.

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2012 at 17:58

#18

MisterHoppy wrote:

And now AR has come out and said it was his decision for Parks to retire, after he had persuaded him not to after the WC, nice one Andy, persuade someone to stay on to help you out then when it goes wrong drop them but have them say publicly they’ve made the decision to retire, then when you realise it’ll all come out anyway admit it was your decision, classy.

Posted on Wed, 8 February 2012 at 19:21

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Fiona (Fiona Lamont) wrote:

I didn’t realise that - I tend to catch up on the news every couple of days. Dan Parkes should have stuck to his guns and retired at the end of the WC - he made too many mistakes there and the 6 nations has just made things worse for him. Hopefully, he’ll still have a rugby career outside of the international arena.

Posted on Thu, 9 February 2012 at 08:01

#20

MisterHoppy wrote:

Less than an hour to Italy - England and I’ve got the FEAR somewhat, we’ve picked the same pack that lacked go forward drive against Scotland and let them make ground around the fringes (if Scotland had kept the ball in the forwards and picked and drove then it would have been a lot better for them), Italy will look to do that against us, we’ve got to get the ball wide and get our back 3 into it as much as possible, time for some nerve settling liquid refreshment.

Posted on Sat, 11 February 2012 at 15:19

#21

Fiona (Fiona Lamont) wrote:

France v Ireland has been called off :-(.
I think Italy played their socks off today - so close and yet so far for them!

Posted on Sat, 11 February 2012 at 20:00

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