#241
Epitome (Dave) wrote:
Well, they’ve already made it. Just buy a second copy of it :-D
Only kidding. I see your point. Personally I like that T? keep pushing themselves into new areas though.
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 14:50
#242
chr1s (I can't remember my own name) wrote:
Yeah, TG has been done… No need to do another. Personally, i think the best thing about T?, is the fact that each and every album sounds completely different. Ok, there is the whole thing of IL alienating the fans that loved TG, (and it seemed to take forever to recover from that) but pushing into new areas and exploring new sounds is probably more exciting for the guys than just being an AC/DC, where every album has the same kinda sound. (I’m NOT having a go at AC/DC BTW) If they did do that, I think it would have bored the life out of them and they’d have chucked it a long time ago. Plus (from a selfish point of view) i like seeing T? play in smaller venues. The last thing i’d want would be to have to go to a T? gig in a massive arena or a stadium with a mad scramble for tickets!!
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 15:01
#243
Squall wrote:
The closest they’ve done to Troublegum Part 2 is High Anxiety.
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 15:42
#244
Epitome (Dave) wrote:
Further thoughts on ABCOL…
I loved the album on first listen and having listened more my love for it has increased. I now curl up with it at night and stroke its hair.
Previously, my top 5 T? albums were:
Troublegum
Shameless
Sucicide Pact - You First
High Anxiety
Crooked Timber
The order isn’t strict, although Troublegum was definitely my favourite and CT probably not quite as good as the rest. Now ABCOL has knocked CT out of the top 5. So far, I’d still say it’s not as good as Troublegum, but it’s still early days… and I’d say it’s probably my 2nd favourite, or at least on par with Shameless, SP - YF and HA.
Good times :-)
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 16:42

#245
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
Joel wrote:
“They just don’t seem to get thebandat all - don’t really want to be labled and certainly won’t be making Troublegum II anytime soon (thank God!).”
Yeah what a stupid idea to record an album with great rock tunes that everyone loved/loves which was critically acclaimed and sold by the bucket load leading to high up festival billings and all round general greatness. Absurd notion.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Troublegum, but it was always intended to be a once off (as others have already mentioned, High Anxiety is the only one sort of close).
What you are implying also doesn’t really hold up due to the following:
- the music industry has since changed many times over, who knows if that type of music would be as successful today as it was back then
- the band may not have lasted as long as they have (Fyffe was the unfortunate casualty of those days)
- Listening to all their albums, Troublegum is very unique in it’s own right, not to be seen as the natural sound of the band
- they quite simply didn’t want to do it
I love Troublegum also, and they kind of lost me as a fan during Semi-Detached (took me a while to come round). Eventually I just came to the conclusion that the band will do whatever they feel like doing and that is what I like about them.
As tempting as a Troublegum II may seem at times, I find the route which they have chosen more exciting and will ensure that they stick around for longer.
Ever since Neil has joined they have come full circle sound wise IMO.
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 17:06 in reply to an earlier post
#246
MisterHoppy wrote:
Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:
I’m not so much the one confused, I did see people use the term dubstep in relation to T? (so maybe they’re the ones confused?), which is why I specifically asked him about any dubstep influences he heard (I’m pretty sure he knew about the difference as well and would’ve told me if I screwed up using those terms). It’s true I assumed dub and dubstep were related but the dubstep remarks were the ones that really bothered me ‘cos I was sure what it was, and I think it is shit =)
I don’t like much dubstep, certainly not from the last 5 years or so, but I love dub, that’s why I wanted to point out the difference is all.
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 18:10 in reply to an earlier post
#247
MisterHoppy wrote:
Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:
In the end, let’s just be happy T? doesn’t sound like Korn?
Amen to that brother :-)
(I’ve got to point out though that the vocal noises (can’t think of another way to describe them, not the actual lric vocals) during Stark Raving Sane are very similar to the ones from Freak On A Leash)
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 18:14 in reply to an earlier post
#248
garymartian (Gary Martin) wrote:
The problem I’ve always had with korn is that they do far too many collaberations. Their new album is basically a re-mix album. “the future of metal” is what Jonathan Davis is quoted as saying about the path of totallity. Arse. If you want dubstep to be an influence, at least do it yourself, rather than someone else doing it on a laptop. At least Therapy?’s dubstep influences are played by the musicians in the band, and are subtle. It has to be said, I thought crooked Timber was Therapy?s best album, I did’t expect them to top it. But I think they may have.
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 18:46
#249
needsometherapy wrote:
Citizen Erased wrote:
Not entirely sure you can label an entire nation based on 2 bad reviews and a chancellor. And the Audi R8 is very nice..
lol :) i wasn’t of course pointing the finger to the whole nation mate :p i have just been sarcastic cause of all the shitty financial crisis hitting my country. For me it is the Germans (their leaders to be more accurate) to blame :p plus of course our fuckin politicians…;)
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 18:48 in reply to an earlier post
#250
Tubthumper (Scott) wrote:
Good evening all, thought I’d pop my head in and say I bought the new album a couple days ago and really enjoying it. Been out of the loop so only found out there was a new album coming out a few weeks ago, meaning less time to wait!
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 20:53

#251
bungle74 (Lee Bristow) wrote:
KJC Dublin wrote:
As tempting as a Troublegum II may seem at times, I find the route which they have chosen more exciting and will ensure that they stick around for longer.
I would love another Troublegum and was hoping for it BUT after a few listens I’m warming to ABCOL. What I love about Therapy? is that I don’t like every track on all of their albums, however, I really love some songs off all of them and for that reason I’ve been into them since seeing them at Reading Festival in 1993 and have seen them nearly 40 times. And at 37 I always say that I’ll stand at the back & watch but every time, EVERY TIME I end up in the mosh pit. The Water Rats was supposed to be my last Therapy? mosh…then Troublegum i London happened. It’s much like going to see my footy team every week, if we were great every match it would get boring (although sometimes would be nice)!!!
In summary, keep it up T? I’ll be Here To The End :O)
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 20:56 in reply to an earlier post

#252
Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:
Joel wrote:
Yeah what a stupid idea to record an album with great rock tunes that everyone loved/loves which was critically acclaimed and sold by the bucket load leading to high up festival billings and all round general greatness. Absurd notion.
Except, if the band didn’t feel inspired to do so (which they didn’t) it wouldn’t have been so great. I think another album like Nurse, Crooked Timber, Troublegum, Infernal Love would be cool too but I just don’t think they could’ve done it, and I see them as greater musicians because they’re constantly broadening their horizons. You may not see Therapy? sell out huge stadiums right now (who cares anyway?), but who knows, people might pick up on this much later (as it often happens with things of great quality), so T?’s experimental albums could last longer than Motorhead and AC/DC part MMXIII (both great bands, btw). Therefore, I don’t think of it as a possibility. I think Andy said in an interview (it’s on Youtube and it has 5 parts, shouldn’t be too hard to find) that the band might’ve fallen apart if they had done that. The result of being commercially successful or trying to be it was Semi-Detached, which doesn’t bother me as much as the fact it seemed to have been made under a lot of pressure from the record company (which is why they made the radical SPYF later). The one time T? tried to stick to what they were familiar with was One Cure Fits All I believe, which had some great tracks but also a couple less-inspired ones which I don’t think they were very happy about. Also, the changing of the drummers had a lot of effect on them, as did Martin becoming a part of the band and then leaving again. You could say the change of sound happened naturally, for a bit.
chr1s wrote:
Yeah, TG has been done… No need to do another. Personally, i think the best thing about T?, is the fact that each and every album sounds completely different.
Amen! Amongst my other absolute favourite bands are Annihilator, Alice Cooper and Paradise Lost. You can figure out I like change. As long as it’s done well, I think variety in material proves a band has more musical talent (a bad example of this would be linkin park, lol). Sadly most people just want more of the same.
MisterHoppy wrote:
I don’t like much dubstep, certainly not from the last 5 years or so, but I love dub, that’s why I wanted to point out the difference is all.
I can imagine you would! x’) It’s ok, I just wanted to clarify I was reacting to people who actually said Therapy? had dubstep influences rather than just dub, I probably should’ve made that more clear.
garymartian wrote:
At least Therapy?’s dubstep influences are played by the musicians in the band, and are subtle.
There they go again, we just went over this! ;)
Posted on Fri, 10 February 2012 at 21:50 in reply to an earlier post
#253
g (Does everything start with destruction?) wrote:
I kind of feel bad that ive listened to this album so much and still not actually purchased it yet, lyrically it explores alot that really resonates with me and that im finding alot of meaning to in combination with the atmosphere its taken in musically. which is no small feat to me nowadays as ive sort of became disenfranchised to feeling that connection to anything musically, fair fucking play to therapy? i really cant describe it much more beyond mind blowing. restoring my faith in alot of things.
Posted on Sat, 11 February 2012 at 14:20
#254
Epitome (Dave) wrote:
I’ve said it before but I’m going to say it again: Andy’s vocals on this album are the best they’ve ever been.
Posted on Sat, 11 February 2012 at 16:18
#255
LoserCop (Stephan Reuss) wrote:
Just a little point here from “good old germany”:
I have no f$%&ing idea why the reviews here are so bad. The album is a real killer. Didn’t know about the bad german reviews before you mentioned it,
just read english ones yet. And I don’t like our chancellor too, by the way.
I’m listening to the album for 4 days now and not gettin tired of it.
Also I’m showing it to all my friends, saying things like “buy it! It’s great!” and most of them like it. So there is a chance it will make its way in germany too…
greetz from Frankfurt!
Posted on Sat, 11 February 2012 at 18:08
#256
LoserCop (Stephan Reuss) wrote:
btw: the mentioned review from plattentests.de says 5 out of 10, but the user voting is 8 out of 10… there’s hope!
Posted on Sat, 11 February 2012 at 18:10
#257
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
Agreed, I know quite a few Germans who like the band. The media however, seems to have turned sour. Don’t get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but they just get a little too nasty for my liking in the review.
As I said, maybe that is cool in the German music press, I however just find it a little over the top.
Posted on Sat, 11 February 2012 at 18:53
#258
needsometherapy wrote:
Maybe the Germans have raised their music expectations after their last year Eurovision song contest “triumph”? hahahahaha
Posted on Sun, 12 February 2012 at 16:06
#259
Alex wrote:
Epitome wrote:
I’ve said it before but I’m going to say it again: Andy’s vocals on this album are the best they’ve ever been.
Really? Better than on Shameless and/or SPYF?
Posted on Sun, 12 February 2012 at 16:47 in reply to an earlier post
#260
Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:
LoserCop wrote:
Just a little point here from “good old germany”:
I have no f$%&ing idea why the reviews here are so bad.
I’m positive Andy once said on the whole (so I’m obviously not pointing the finger at you) Germany is the country where the people at gigs are most pro-Troublegum and least pro-anything else by Therapy?. He said it in a half joking manner though, so I’m not sure what to make of it.
Posted on Sun, 12 February 2012 at 21:10 in reply to an earlier post
#261
Squall wrote:
A Brief Crack Of Light made it to Number 20 in the Indie Albums Chart and number 7 in the Rock Albums chart !
:)
Posted on Sun, 12 February 2012 at 23:47
#262
garymartian (Gary Martin) wrote:
Sweet! ‘Tis selling nicely then. It deserves to. :)
Posted on Sun, 12 February 2012 at 23:53
#263
mfgeorge wrote:
wish it would sell in North America… watching the Grammy’s right now; it’s true depressing (except for the Foo’s)
Posted on Mon, 13 February 2012 at 02:04
#264
Super Hans (Dave) wrote:
it’s funny everyone else decked out and Dave Grohl sitting there in a Slayer tee-shirt
Posted on Mon, 13 February 2012 at 03:50
#265
Vandal wrote:
This is new album is immense, for me there is not one bad track on there.
A truly outstanding piece of work.
Posted on Mon, 13 February 2012 at 21:36
#266
CS (Colin S) wrote:
I love the new album! However, am I alone in thinking that T?’s sound is slightly becomming over-reliant on the piccollo snare?
Parts of the album (Get You’re Dead Hand..) sounds a bit like overkill on the 2nd snare. Don’t get me wrong, I love it, but just feel it could be used… less frequently.. if that makes sense!
Maybe I’m just talking shite
Posted on Tue, 14 February 2012 at 00:05
#267
KJC Dublin (Karl) wrote:
Nah, you are right that it is used more often on this album. But then again, I love the sound of it, so it doesn’t really bother me :-)
Posted on Tue, 14 February 2012 at 08:06
#268
kossu (Petri Koskiniemi) wrote:
How come it will be released here in Finland on the 22nd of this month? So that´s why I didnt find any copies in shops here last week and yesterday when I was downtown…
Posted on Tue, 14 February 2012 at 12:43
#269
Cactus wrote:
Earlier records did use the 2nd snare more sparingly, so it stood out more when it happened. Now it’s more a regular part of the repertoire, so it’s less… startling, and some of the 2nd snare patterns sound a little more familiar - but importantly still don’t sound like any other band. I’m happy, to be honest I could listen to Neil’s drum parts on their own for this album, the guy is stunning.
Posted on Tue, 14 February 2012 at 13:51
#270
soul doubt (an) wrote:
kossu wrote:
How come it will be released here in Finland on the 22nd of this month? So that´s why I didnt find any copies in shops here last week and yesterday when I was downtown…
I asked Global about this when my pre-order didn’t arrive and I started to look for it in local recordstores. They all said it would arrive Februari 17th :(
Global then told me that the 6th was the UK releasedate and it 17th the European releasedate… I guess the Scandinavian releasedate will be the 22nd.
On a sidenote: I got a note in my mailbox yesterday that our postman had a package for me but there was no-one to accept it… I can pick up my copy of A Brief Crack Of Light tonight!!!! :D
Posted on Tue, 14 February 2012 at 14:10 in reply to an earlier post