Wall of Mouths

hmmmm, I will be in my last month of pregnancy by then, but it has been a while since I last saw them. what to do, what to do?

enjoy ;)

http://www.coupercoller.be/downloads/therapy/therapy%20bxl%2003%2004%202012/

way tooooooo short !!

You also forgot Get Your Dead Hand Of My Shoulder. ;)

They played very well, but the sound sucked during the first few songs which caused Ghost Trio and Why Turbulence to sound very poor (no bass at all!!)

Ronald wrote:

Last nigth I asked about the setlist and there IS a philosophy behind it: In cities where they played a Troublegum show last year they mostly skip those songs and play a lot or the whole of ABCOL in combination with older stuff of course.

I always hate it when fans complain about everything but now I’m going to do it myself, because I have to admit, after reading the above quote I was very dissapointed by the setlist. They played a Troublegum-set here last year, so I was really looking forward to hear the complete album. It’s a pity that after one week of touring 4 songs of the new album have fallen off already, I thought this was a tour for the new album…
It’s such an amazing album, and it might have been a disappointment for some (at first?) but with the album they showed they don’t make what others want them to make. Then why play what others want you to play,instead of the new work you can be proud of? Or aren’t they? I have my doubts that after +2000 (?) gigs they still want to play the 7 “piss/beer break-songs” if they didn’t “have to”. At a certain point Andy said they where going to play another song of the new album, “after that we’ll play some more old stuff” Was that an apology for playing a new song!? 6 new/4 troublegum in a 20 song-set while having 13 albums… strange ratio.
If it weren’t a tour for the new album, I wouldn’t be bothered so much, I would just sigh but still scream my lungs out while singing along. This time however the weight was a bit too heavy to carry on my own ;) /rant

I thought the crowd was very calm compared with other Therapy? gigs they played in that venue.
A pity there’s always some annoying people that have to talk constantly, instead of Ecclesiastes I heard the life-story of someone I don’t give a shit about! Show some respect for the band/other people. If you don’t come to hear the band just go to a pub and don’t spend €25 to ruin other people’s gig experience!! :(

It was my first therapy concert and it was great. Bought Infernal Love in the 90s and yesterday the new album. I will definitely buy some other Therapy Albums, loved Exiles. So hope to see them again in the near future.

yauckt.be wrote:

enjoy ;)

http://www.coupercoller.be/downloads/therapy/therapy%20bxl%2003%2004%202012/

way tooooooo short !!

Thank you very much!

Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:

I’m sure they’re proud of the new material, but perhaps might have felt some songs just didn’t go down so well live. Some songs suck on an album, but are great live, and the other way around.

True, but that’s definately not the case here. I can’t see why Stark Raving Sane, Marlow, The Buzzing and Plague Bell won’t do it live, on the contrary! Plus the people who went to the German shows were very postive about them. The only song I had doubts about how it would sound live was Ecclesiastes…

Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:

Believe me 6/10 is good for a band with T?’s discography to fall back on.

6/10 aint too bad indeed, but they’re promoting their new album and still play 4 Troublegum songs, that’s just not a fair match in my eyes. They do have an extensive back catalog but that’s not an argument if they ignored 6 out of 13 albums (and not only last night). But ignoring 6 albums is not what was bothering me, it’s that they said only a day before to Ronald (who I tend to believe) that they were going to play the entire new album in places where they played the Troublegum in it’s entirety last year.

But hey, it’s cool with me that they play what they want… I just don’t believe that’s what they really want (for 20 years every gig, the same 7 songs, that’s probably +1500 times), they’re just keeping the crowd happy. It is indeed like realityfuck says, a lot of people just come for the hits, but they played this fantastic formula in Germany. Apart from the people that only come for a night out, there’s also a lot of people in Belgium that have seen Therapy? over 20 times… if 4 of those 7 hits get dropped for those 4 new songs they still get to play 3 of these hits, along with other, less played hits… just for once?

The last 2 album tours I’ve seen them play every song of the album live, which is amazing. What hits me most is that chances are VERY small I’ll hear Stark Raving Sane, Plague Bell, Marlow and The Buzzing live, songs that fall off first usually never get played again.

Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:

Annihilator only played 3 new in a set of 20 or so songs, U.D.O. did even worse playing only 2 new songs off Rev-Raptor in an hour-long set.

If it’s the tour right after the release, that’s pretty sad for a promotion-tour… Unless it’s a 3 or 4 tracks album of course, but I take it it’s not. But then again, I haven’t seen those bands 66 times, playing the same songs over and over again :-p

Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:

I also think they were rather left off in favour of creating a setlist with songs from more different albums: I’d heard If It Kills Me, DLAMF and Polar Bear live before, but only a couple of times. After all these albums still exist and the guys can be proud of them as well and willing to put them in the spotlight.

Probably, but they didn’t, like I said they ignored 6 of them, fair enough, it’s their choice.

Thefanthattriedtostrangleitslf wrote:

Also, 4 Troublegum songs might seem like a lot, and it is, but I also gotta mention Screamager and Nowhere are both really short songs ;)

2 old songs off the list, one new on the list :D
I might have to mention that I have absolutely nothing against Troublegum (though I got a bit tired of Screamager, Nowhere, Die Laughing and Isolation). I absolutely loved the Troublegum gigs, it’s the album that got me into Therapy? and I still enjoy listening to the album. If it’s not a promotion-tour of a new album I don’t even care if they play these… but using these to replace 4 new songs got my heart bleeding…
I am sure those 4 tracks sound amazing live… I absolutely love Andy’s screaming-vocals on The Buzzing and Marlow is my favorite track on the album even one of my favorite Therapy? songs.

oh yeah, the annotations on the set list are mine and in my slightly drunken haze I put Teenage Kicks up front of Nowhere which is wrong. they let it segue into Screamager of course which by the way was a fan-fucking-tastic T? moment.

I remember they played the whole Crooked Timber album in the AB on the Crooked Tour, so I was kinda expecting that too, but as I said before I don’t mind them playing the same songs as long as they play them well and with heart and aren’t just going through the motions (I didn’t have the feeling they were). I realize leaving Screamager and Nowhere off would be difficult but it’s indeed possible to scrap Die Laughing (especially) and Isolation (even though I love this track) and Nowhere and Screamager then wouldn’t take much space. Making setlists is harder than it seems though. As far as getting tired of playing certain tracks go, Nick Holmes’ (Paradise Lost) response to the same question was “if the crowd’s pumped, so are we!” and I think it’s the same for T? and most bands. ;) The kick never gets old and I can imagine those tracks taking the guys back to their - as something they created that in turn ‘created them’ so to speak, those songs must have a huge emotional meaning to the guys as well, at least, so I would imagine. That said, the crowd *was* pumped during the tracks of the other albums as well, which I really liked! Polar Bear, Die Like A Motherfucker, If It Kills Me haven’t always been there so I feel they already did well with the set: the end of the Crooked Tour (those 3 gigs with Ricky) saw Church Of Noise, Lonely Crying’ Only and I Am The Money as well as tracks from the first 2 albums (Fantasy Bag, Meat Abstract and Punishment Kiss I think) jump back into the set and I think the guys want to play at least 2 songs off an album they want to put in the picture on a gig: if they were to play 1 song from each every time I don’t think people would remember it so easily and that wouldn’t be very effective. At least that would be my reasoning. So far I’ve heard songs off all the albums except Suicide Pact - You First (which is a crying shame) but I know they played some of it at the Water Rats. I think you have to see it more as a long-term thing, on the long-term, Therapy? does *really* well compared to most bands, believe me :p

I think I got what you were saying, at parts I was just theorizing about how the guys make their set lists because I think it’s interesting :) Was the German show the one where the support cancelled? I thought for a moment it was an April fool’s joke because it claimed they had started off very radically with some of the songs some people didn’t like :p Maybe they plan to return in the summer to play those new tracks they didn’t play this time so more people would come down to get a chance to hear them rather than not go because they just expect the usual festival set. See? Positive thinking :p

Btw they have to play Diane to remember people to vote on the Tijdloze :p

Glad our good friend Kris made it to the gig even though he didn’t feel very well that day.
He shot shitloads of very nice videoclips which he wants to share with all of us here, look for the clips by “krisinblack”

Seeing these clips again makes me wonder: “What the hell was I complaining about!?”

;)