Wall of Mouths

Is trancers the film where heads explode, or was that scanners? [that’s probably a no then]

Saw CArter twice at the Octogon, they were past their prime by then and would have been better at a smaller venue (like your toilet), but 30-Something and 1992 were both fantastic albums. I mention them now as when I first went to Sheffield, the 2 albums that all the students had were Nevermind and 30-Something

Afraid the name don’t ring a bell. Trancers does, though, so I suspect I’ve probably seen it at some time.

Vertical Limit tonight - well, the woman at the gym (where they do ‘free’ rentals) said it was good.

30seconds wrote:

PS don’t know why Nirvana never got sued for that Killing Joke rip-off. Never heard a more blatant steal.

Heh, my mum’s a big Killing Joke fan so I was into them long before I ever heard of Nirvana and you’re right - it was such blatant thievery!

Despite that, I don’t think that they were overrated at the time at all. Since Kurt killed himself (I for one am not buying into the conspiricy theory) then they have been hyped and completely sold out by everyone, which wouldn’t be the case if he were alive. I’d say exactly the same about The Beatles.

Cant really argue with any of you about the legendary status, but isn’t this thread about whether the music justifies that status? In my opinion it doesn’t.

Changed the way people listen to music? Come on now, very few artists do that. I’ve hummed along to ‘teen spirit’ in my time but here’s my list of those i think really HAVE changed the face of music.

Elvis. The beatles. The stones (maybe). The sex pistols (definitely)The sugarhill gang (for better - public enemy or for worse - run dmc)and most recently the aphex twin.

oh and the ‘live aid’ phenomenon changed the face of music too. Destroyed it for nearly 10 years!

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its safe enough to say that nirvana was overrated in 2003.
have you ever read the lyrics?. its not just dumb lyrics
over macho catchy music. kurt cobain was one of the most genuine
and resistant people to the industry policy.
he was also one of the worst guitarists.that was what
made them more important. simple guitar riffs together
with some of the best lyrics written help to bring about
a groundbreaking sound back then. nothing before made
the mainstream garbage sound so minor and ridiculous.it was a musical revolution. want it or not.
nirvana shouldered the heavy burden of bringing rock music to the foreground.
and they were manipulated to the bone. a stereotype
of a crazy,weirdo,narcoleptic troubled young man is
created.his death sold even more.
but have in mind that without nirvana you wouldnt be
listening to the same music today.
it was a movement that marked a whole generation.

so nirvana is the sex pistols of the nineties you say..

Hmm I detect conflict

Title: Re: You’ve read my mind

Darth Bud wrote:

I was overjoyed when I heard that Cobain sucked on a shotgun.

:rolleyes:

Fair play to you arvid. We disagree over Nirvana - fair enough.

I’m with you - that ‘sucking on a shotgun’quote is WAY out of line.

30seconds wrote:

Fair play to you arvid. We disagree over Nirvana - fair enough.

I’m with you - that ‘sucking on a shotgun’quote is WAY out of line.

Yeah its WAY FUCKING OUT OF LINE!!

nirvana … over-rated? … maybe, but so what?

the press have a habit of hyping, unduly slating, skewing, mis-informing, exagerating etc

‘heart-shaped-box’ is my favourite songs ever. it means something to me. i don’t care if half of nirvana’s songs were rip-offs, it didn’t stop me from enjoying them!

i would much rather be buying and listening to Nirvana and Therapy? albums, than a majority of the synthetic pop music that is being fed to the masses

on the subject of rip offs, most bands are heavily influenced by other bands, and it doesn’t take much listening to realise that.

surely it’s more important that a band are passionate about what they do, reflect that in their performance, and that they produce something that is entertaining and meaningful to someone?

Good points, Bud. You were a bit out of line with your comment, but it’s a good thing you are big enough to admit it.

No reason to be calling you names though, so I’d appreciate it if everyone could disagree with others without name calling, please. Thanks.

Darth Bud wrote:

One of my best friends did and I’ll never forgive him.

Sorry man, had the same thing 3 years ago…

Darth Bud wrote:

Kurt Cobain was an unhappy man who could’ve slipped away from the spotlight. He could still be doing what he loved, making music, in his basement without an audience. Now because of his choice, his daughter will never get a chance to know her father, except through soundclips and other’s memories.

Not that easy with a body full of heroin. It is the drug that has the highest suicide rate.

I do think Nirvana changed the music business. Nothing better to illustrate that than a quote from metalsludge.com (metal heads will know what I’m talking about). It’s an excerpt from the Metallica-Icon show review:

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Rob Zombie says, “Think back to a time before Metallica. Everything sucked. Everybody was a pretty boy. Things were desperate. Everybody had teased hair, spandex, it was horrible. But then one band came along. Four regular guys, T-shirts, jeans…” blah blah blah. Sorry Rob, I think you went to the Sebastian Bach School Of Misinformation. Metallica started in 1981, before Poison, Ratt, and the entire hair band thing took off. It’s not like Metallica came along and wiped out the hairbands or were even an answer to the hairbands. I think that band was called Nirvana.
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:D