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Started by todd

Okay I have moaned about this numerous times but I wanted to solicit feedback.

T? really is unknown here in the USA. Semi Detached was never released here etc.

That being said why doesn’t the band look to get on a festival or multi band tour for exposure.

Lollapaloosa, Ozzfest (second stage for both) or even the Metallica Summer Sanitarium Tour. Linkin Park, Deftones and limpbizket..T? would smoke em all.

Just wondering if people think that may help T? crack the USA market. Yeah its nice to call em “my band” and keep them to myself but damn it..5+ years between visits to the USA flat out SUCKS! I am gonna be 33 this summer if you catch my drift..i will be the old bastard jumping up and down all you whipper snappers will make fun of. Saw them on the Nurse tour opening for Tad..so i go back a ways…

I wish I had the money to have them come here, or I’d even go to the UK to see them…damn it.

I am way of subject..

Multi act bill or not?

Posted on Thu, 29 May 2003 at 19:35

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#1

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

I think a festival tour of the USA would be a great way for the band to gain some exposure over there. I honestly don’t know why they don’t :(

Posted on Thu, 29 May 2003 at 20:53

#2

Fat Kid Suicide wrote:

Title: So True…

:D an appearance at Ozzfest or Metallica would be great for the band (and me), but lolla may not be ready for them. I personally have been a fan in america since ‘94, and have never seen them. They played in my city (Dallas, TX) several times, but I never knew about it. Then, I found the site, and now…I KNOW EVERYTHING! MUHUHUHAHAHAHAHAHA! So, in short, if they ever come again, I will not miss them, guaranteed. Hell, I have even been tempted to hop a plane to the UK to see them several times. Never made it tho.

FKS :eek:

Posted on Thu, 29 May 2003 at 21:40

#3

davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: festival would be decent

they’ve played ozzfest gigs over seas,
so no reason they can’t do it in the
states.

i’ve been hoping they’d come to tampa
bay because my brother has a few
connections that he says he’ll pull to
get ‘em into th elocal radio station
on the morning show.. which is syndicated
and beamed to like 7 places across the
country via satellite.. love to do that..

things they could use
1> festival tour would definately help
2> low end band-in-van club tour to
get their name out..
3> videos suitable for the american
market.. i question alot of theirs..
4> the single being appropriately pushed
to the right venues. seems the labels
aim for limp-bizkit stations or
college kiddie stations only.
5> pushing into stores like best buy
with a low cost on the record as
is common w/ first week releases.
this is typically for driving up
“week of release sales”, but would
make it an easier “impulse buy” for
some folks who’ve just liked the
single they’ve hears from ‘em.
6> a tad more touring
7> living in the states to play at my
wedding whenever i find a suitable
female who’s not bonkers.

Posted on Thu, 29 May 2003 at 22:42

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davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: oh.. and

get them on the conan o’brien show. for
any non-americans, it’s a late night
talk show that’s hosted by conan obrian
who’s a comedian. great show.

but the reason i say him is, he likes to
play up his irish ancestory.. plus he will
have lesser known bands on his show.. and
most of the other late night shows only
play big well known, or popular “up and
comer” bands. he has played bands with
similar popularity to T? before

Posted on Thu, 29 May 2003 at 23:27

#5

Krisken wrote:

Title: Therapy in the States

Man, I’d kill to have Therapy? show up for Summerfest here in the Milwaukee area. They certainly don’t get enough exposure here in the States.

I do think the problem here is most of the people here who don’t know them are content to continue being spoon fed the crap on the radio.

Ah well, my own personal rant.

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 01:33

#6

The Artful Lodger wrote:

Title: Re: oh.. and

davefromoverthere wrote:

get them on the conan o’brien show.

Excellent idea. Conan would likely put them on the show. And it would be great for T? because playing Conan carries more cool points than any of the other late night American talk shows.

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 06:21

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Alan wrote:

Title: Re: Therapy? in the USA your thoughts..

todd wrote:

Lollapaloosa, Ozzfest (second stage for both) or even the Metallica Summer Sanitarium Tour. Linkin Park, Deftones and limpbizket..T? would smoke em all.

Therapy? played the Ozzfest in the USA in 1996. About 12 dates, I think Andy said.

He also said they got a very good reception even though most people didn’t know who they were. That makes me wonder why they haven’t appeared on the US Ozzfest since.

Andy: “Although not so great that we thought we’d become Aerosmith or something…” :)

Andy’s funny :)

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 08:12

#8

believer wrote:

The Americans are not into the kind of music T? makes.

T? will never be great in the USA. They do like Rap Rock, RNB more over there than real rock music. It’s a shame but it’s a fact…

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 09:01

#9

Krisken wrote:

Title: Errrrr…

believer wrote:

The Americans are not into the kind of music T? makes.

Well, some of us are. I admit most of the people here are mentally deficient. Best I can do is smack my friends around and keep playing them till they come around and start listening to good music.

Oh, and rap sucks. I know, not a good arguement, but it’s a little after 5 in the morning here and I havn’t slept yet.

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 10:10

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davefromoverthere wrote:

believer wrote:

The Americans are not into the kind of music T? makes.

T? will never be great in the USA. They do like Rap Rock, RNB more over there than real rock music. It’s a shame but it’s a fact…

Ehhhhhhh disagree mostly. Therapy’s
not gonna be the next Backstreet Boys
or anything, this is true, but there is
a taste for heavy music.

I think the popularity of bands like
Drowning Pool and Disturbed shows the
potential of T? being liked (I realize
both those bands are a bit different than
t?, but they’re examples of similar
bands).

Artists from over seas just tend to
have crap luck breaking the States,
and I’m not really sure why, I can
theorize some, but past that no.
Hell, look at Robbie Williams. I think
he’s a great song writer and has a
great voice, but past the amusement
of his “RockDJ” video, he’s done
crap worth of sales in the States..

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 11:34

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mfgeorge wrote:

in order for t? to play summer festivals in NA, they have to not play summer festivals in europe, and we all know how they love their european festivals… as much as i agree that media/record label/fans need to promote t? over here, t? need to promote themselves over here as well… 12 shows in the northeastern states inbetween albums is not the right time or place to do a tour… let’s face it, t? are waiting for their popularity to grow in NA before they act, instead of acting and watching their popularity grow…

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 12:52

#12

Hecubus wrote:

T? on Conan is a fantastic idea.

T? at Ozzfest or the like is a horrible idea — because i wouldn’t get to see them. no way i’m paying that much money to get into a festival when i only want to see one band (i’m sorry, but the typical Ozzfest/other festival lineup can lick the sloppy side of my fuck stick).

i just play ‘em for everyone i know. thinking globally, acting locally, or some such shit.

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 13:02

#13

davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: festival..

honestly… i don’t think ozzfest would
be a good idea, thinking about it.

i say they play the radio-festival circuit.

fyi for overseas folks, I know there are
some big ones, but not often.. here in
the states even medium to small markets
will sometimes have a station put on a
radio festival. they’ll be all over the
country, be named different things, but
often will have a few of the same bands.

this also would allow them to pick up some
smaller club dates in between.

another beauty of this is, often radio
festivals are cheaper than “ozzfest” style
festivals.

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 13:12

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todd wrote:

Title: Well..

The summer touring session in NEw England is from May to Septemeber. That is plenty of time. As the previous post noted a radio station one is a good idea..its just the stations need to add the band to the playlist (a good thing).

I am sure if T? could latch on to a good bill in NA they’d do it..I just don’t know why bands don’t ask them, or if the management has inquired about it.

Ahh well.

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 17:21

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davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: Re: Well..

todd wrote:

The summer touring session in NEw England is from May to Septemeber. That is plenty of time. As the previous post noted a radio station one is a good idea..its just the stations need to add the band to the playlist (a good thing).

Well, if they could get on these festivals
somehow, the stations typically *do* add
a spin or two of each band.. even if it’s
just a week or two before the festival,
then drop the song.. very common, but even
a spin a day for a week or two would be
way more than T? gets, so anything’d be
nice…

joo speaketh the truth, my NA-T? brutha.

Posted on Fri, 30 May 2003 at 18:18

#16

Yank Crime wrote:

Title: Therapy? In The USA

It’s really expensive to get on the bill for some of those festivals though, particularly Ozzfest, I read somewhere exactly how much but I can’t remember but it’s thousands, and i’d say therapy? would be on a tight enough budget when touring the states. Some bands I think it would be good for them to tour with would be:

Tomahawk
QOTSA
Supersuckers
Rocket From The Crypt
Zeke
Rollins Band

Good rock bands that aren’t strictly punk or metal.

Posted on Sun, 1 June 2003 at 22:36

#17

marginwalker wrote:

actually, here in the states, Therapy? is regarded as something of a one-hit wonder. i remember “screamager” getting a bit of airplay, and, well, that’s the song that drew me in (at the age of 13!).
by the time troublegum came out, america’s short attention span had turned toward something else entirely. a&m destroyed whatever momentum the band had built up by delaying infernal love for a ridiculous amount of time and failing to even release semi-detached.
personally, i think all t? need is a good promotional push to get at least a sizable cult following over here.

Posted on Mon, 2 June 2003 at 05:46

#18

tk4two1 wrote:

What it all boils down to is the record company. They are the ones that promote the band to radio and tv. I have cringed both times that I heard what labels T? has signed to since A&M. Ark21 did nothing for them and I believe that Spitfire will too. They either need to go with a major label or with a very well known minor like Epitaph or something similar.

Posted on Mon, 2 June 2003 at 18:33

#19

scott stevens wrote:

Title: therapy in us? (merged)

anyone know if therapy is coming to the new york area anytime soon?

Posted on Thu, 5 June 2003 at 11:52

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todd wrote:

Title: Nope..

Prolly not..check the other posts..unless the record “does something” here don’t expect to see them.

Posted on Thu, 5 June 2003 at 19:26

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Preacher wrote:

The one time that I knew about T? playing in my neck of the woods (Washington State) was when they were recording “Shameless” in Seattle (heh). They were going to put on a gig in a local club and my friend and I had our tickets and walked up to the door…Cancelled because their drummer broke his arm. I almost cried, then got drunk and headbanged.

The one time I heard T? on the radio was when I was in college and the station played “Nowhere”. I jumped up and down and acted the fool.

On another topic, anyone know why the discography doesn’t include stuff like the Black Sabbath Tribute album or the “Judgement Night” soundtrack (which is how I was introduced to T?)?

Posted on Thu, 5 June 2003 at 20:41

#22

davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: well..

supposedly they are gonna tour here
in the states.

but that tour itenerary might be sitting
in that magic room w/ the speedo menace
movie, the ep from a few years ago.. etc..

Posted on Fri, 6 June 2003 at 13:29

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tk4two1 wrote:

Title: Re: Nope..

todd wrote:

unless the record “does something” here don’t expect to see them.

This is funny because the sole purpose of a band touring is to promote their album. T? Needs to hit hard with a big US tour to boost sales in the US.

Posted on Fri, 6 June 2003 at 15:27

#24

davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: Re: Re: Nope..

tk4two1 wrote:

This is funny because the sole purpose of a band touring is to promote their album. T? Needs to hit hard with a big US tour to boost sales in the US.

the real killer to me, how the music
bidness is these days in the states,
.. mainly/especially w/ the big artists,
.. the album is a promotional tool it
seems.. to promote the tour.. probably
not explaining this well, but you guys
probably know what i mean. sell the
album cheap, new music is just an excuse
to tour. why quibble over cd sales when
you can sell it cheap as hell and bring
out people to your big shows where you
pull down 150k/night…

works for people like manson, and the
popsters.. but of course t?’s not exactly
in that selling category..

Posted on Fri, 6 June 2003 at 15:34

#25

mooneycult wrote:

Title: Re: Re: Re: Nope..

davefromoverthere wrote:

the album is a promotional tool it
seems… to promote the tour… sell the
album cheap, new music is just an excuse
to tour.

i thought that tours were there to promote the album, not the other way around??!!

and if the albums are being sold cheap isn’t that a good thing? lord knows are being ripped off enough in ireland!

Posted on Fri, 6 June 2003 at 15:52

#26

davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: well..

i’m saying this from the standpoint of
someone in the states who’s watched
the industry, and delt w/ alot of promo
people at a few different labels.

my comment about the cheap discs was kinda
off hand, and not a well.. explained..
comment.

just when the tours bring in so much
money, more so often than the records
even do in some cases… the album itself
starts to feel more akin to that flashy
video on MTV, than the actual end product
or point of the business…

[cynic mode off]

;)

Posted on Fri, 6 June 2003 at 18:55

#27

davefromoverthere wrote:

Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nope..

mooneycult wrote:

and if the albums are being sold cheap isn’t that a good thing? lord knows are being ripped off enough in ireland!

again, can’t comment for ireland. i’m
mostly entertained by the current building
trend in the states of first week runs
of albums, especially by big acts, being
insanely cheap. cds that’ll normally
run 11.99-15.99$ (USD), will sometimes
be as cheap as 5.99 for the first week.
For example, “The Vines” (yeah tease me
if ya like, it’s a decent disc).. it’s
usually $12-$15 these days, got it first
week because I noticed it was $5.99.
Manson’s new album is floating around in
the 10.99-15.99 range, got it firs tweek
for 8.99.

Likely the main reasoning behind this
is to just get some money in, but also
boost the “DEBUT WEEK SALES” numbers of
these various albums. Alot more folks
will buy a cd at $8.99 than $14.99.

Posted on Fri, 6 June 2003 at 20:44

#28

scott stevens wrote:

why couldnt they just do a smaller venue tour

hit some places get local openers, people here will be exposed to them, i like the idea of em touring with rocket from the crypt

Posted on Thu, 12 June 2003 at 14:04

#29

fulcrumvox wrote:

I live in Omaha, nebraska which is right in the middle of the US, and even I know T? fucking owns.

I don’t think there is another band I get more excited about releasing new albums then T?

I just wish the rest of the country would wake up and realize that we don’t need the white stripes to save rock, T? has been keeping it alive the whole time.

Posted on Thu, 12 June 2003 at 18:44

#30

davefromoverthere wrote:

fulcrumvox wrote:

I just wish the rest of the country would wake up and realize that we don’t need the white stripes to save rock, T? has been keeping it alive the whole time.

hahahaahahahaahaha brilliant comment ;)

yeah, would love to see the realization of
a hard working band that’s been there,
done it, and broke it in half. problem
is, they’ve been signed, they’ve been
around.. so they’re not new.. and they
sure as hell aren’t young+sexy any more..

hell i’ll even put them up at my place if
they come to tampa bay, said it before, will
say it again ;)

Posted on Thu, 12 June 2003 at 18:48

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