#61
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
in the sense that the darkness and their money men behind them have hit upon a vacant hole now in the music industry, so did columbia’s music men do the same whole spin with kula shaker back in 1996. i rest my case…
xxx
Posted on Fri, 12 September 2003 at 23:23
#62
Andy D (Andy) wrote:
Hypes will come and hypes will go but THERAPY? is here to stay. But wasn’t Troublegum hyped back in 1994?
Posted on Sat, 13 September 2003 at 05:03
#63
Bad Karma wrote:
dano wrote:
No, cause WK was left out in the sickening tongue up arse-fest that was the White Stripes and The Strokes, both of whom are the most important bands ever and totally re-invented music, according to non-biased types such as the NME.
lol well dano Mr WK was included in that sickening tougueup arse-fest because about two years ago the NME stuck Andrew WK on the cover twice of the same issue (the front cover and again on page 3) and called him the savoiur of music and the NME writer also voted his album 69 in the Top 100 albums of all time if thats not hype i don’t what it is.
As for The Darkness like i said before its a good fun album but i would never say its the best album of all time.I do agree with you’re point about the same magazines and media types who slated WK are now championing The Darkness it has become very fashionable to say you like them.I just don’t like WK.
The sales charts in Virgin,Woolworths and HMV are often different from the Top 40 and album charts.
Posted on Sat, 13 September 2003 at 10:56
#64
dano wrote:
Oh come off it BK, one glowing review and front cover, albeit two different ones or not does simply not compare to the continous promotion we’ve seen with the White Stripes or, especially, The Strokes. When did we ever get a headline article about WK hurting his leg and may or may not be writting new songs? The biggest irony of all was that the NME put all their money on the Strokes and ended up backing the wrong horse.
But then, look at the other bands who got hyped around that same time, Moldy Peaches, ARE Weapons and a load of other bands who were promptly dropped like a brick once the NME decided what England wanted.
In all honesty I doubt that any of these bands would have got anywhere if it wasn’t for the fact they are from New York. Desperate as ever to be “the ones who told you first”, I often wonder how much cash/ incentives is given to the NME from shady corporate types to hype the next big thing.
Posted on Sat, 13 September 2003 at 17:46
#65
dano wrote:
Fiestaboy wrote:
Hypes will come and hypes will go but THERAPY? is here to stay. But wasn’t Troublegum hyped back in 1994?
Yes, there was, but there was a hell of a buzz about Therapy? long before Troublegum, and it was more from word of mouth than PR and promotion.
Posted on Sat, 13 September 2003 at 19:49
#66
Bad Karma wrote:
dano wrote:
Oh come off it BK, one glowing review and front cover, albeit two different ones or not does simply not compare to the continous promotion we’ve seen with the White Stripes or, especially, The Strokes. When did we ever get a headline article about WK hurting his leg and may or may not be writting new songs? The biggest irony of all was that the NME put all their money on the Strokes and ended up backing the wrong horse.
Come off nothing WK was one of the most over hyped artists of 2001 i’m not a Strokes fan but WK was the wrong horse the NME backed,he headlined their Brats tour and was upstaged by the support acts.
Posted on Sat, 13 September 2003 at 23:29
#67
dano wrote:
So WK had a bit of hyperboyle at the begining, but certainly not to the extent that The Strokes and The White Stripes had..or certainly not to the extent of The Darkness. If anything, they’ve played up the love him or hate him angle.
And NME backed The Strokes over the White Stripes, The White Stripes have done far better. NME backed the wrong horse, and it was The Strokes.
Posted on Sun, 14 September 2003 at 17:52
#68
Bad Karma wrote:
The only real irony here is that the recent success of The Darkness might benefit Andrew WK because it really is make or break time for him.His first album was such a flop commerically.Lots of bands played up the love em hate em angle for instance the Manics did early in their career.
You have mentioned the NME a lot but in regard to The Darkness they first got support from Metal Hammmer and Kerrang.
Before their Glastonbury gig The Darkness had won a best band compertition,a good live reputation and had a few singles out which are now fetching anything up to £50 on Ebay.With the promotion of any new band their is a certain amount of hype to make people take notice of them but WK had an unbelieveable amount of coverage and there was his album cover stunt that created more than a few headlines.The Darkness they have had a word of mouth success as well,i think the current state of the UK rock scene has helped them when dull bands like Feeder,Coldplay and Starsailor seem to dominate the playlists and look miserable all the time heres a band that actually look as if they are enjoying themselves on stage and are shock horror having fun.
They are also planning to release a Christmas single but i don’t think they will get the number one spot i’m sure some dullard from Pop Idol or maybe Cliff Richards (he always seems to have one out at Xmas) will get it.
The Strokes have only released one album with a second due to be released soon while The White Stripes have released four albums in their musical career.So of course The White Stripes have had more success so far.I think you will find The Strokes will do quite well i’m indifferent to them.
Posted on Sun, 14 September 2003 at 18:40
#69
allroy wrote:
Bad Karma wrote:
The Strokes have only released one album with a second due to be released soon while The White Stripes have released four albums in their musical career.So of course The White Stripes have had more success so far.I think you will find The Strokes will do quite well i’m indifferent to them.
It was time someone mentioned the number of albums The White Stripes have released to make it clear that they get hyped, but worked long and hard enough to “earn” it.
As to The Strokes, I’m indifferent to them as well. The first album was good but not so overwhelming to deserve all the praises. Now they’ve got to prove their talent.
Posted on Mon, 15 September 2003 at 06:57
#70
Superunknown wrote:
mr self destruct wrote:
That’s exactly what I thought!
Man this retro movement is out of control. We went from 60 bands ripp offs (B.R.M.C., The Hives, The Vines, The White Stripes, The Strokes, The Libertines, etc.) to 70’s/80’s hair bands (Kings Of Leon, The Darkness) in 2 years. The worst thing is that all these bands are obviously begging to get a record deal: “Please notice us! Look how out of time we are, isn’t that cool?”.
What the hell? Is it impossible to come up with something new and original these days?
Posted on Tue, 16 September 2003 at 00:26
#71
dano wrote:
The retro movement’s been out of control for ages now, for me it’s felt like since the mid 90’s onwards, everybody want’s to be somebody else from the previous 2 or 3 decades. I’d always wondered if it was to do with getting older, but I think that the bottom line is that nobody really wants to be trying anything new anymore, always looking for that record deal more than anything else. Of course, the catch 22 is that if record companies were actually interested in promoting something new, people wouldn’t come up with such formula rehashed material.
As Cop Shoot Cop once said, “Smash Retro!”
Posted on Tue, 16 September 2003 at 01:50
#72
Bad Karma wrote:
mr self destruct wrote:
HaHa thats what i like about em. :D
Posted on Tue, 16 September 2003 at 18:06
#73
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
as much as i don’t like the darkness, i do hope they get that christmas number one :)
xxx
Posted on Tue, 16 September 2003 at 22:06
#74
dano wrote:
I always prefered Bad News to Spinal Tap!
Posted on Tue, 16 September 2003 at 22:18
#75
SMB wrote:
I believe in a thing called love…
Posted on Wed, 17 September 2003 at 11:57
#76
EvilElvis wrote:
I have complete respect for The Darkness. I first heard about them 2 years ago, and they were basically doing “toilet tours” where they travelled the country in a crappy transit van playing shithole venues in front of tiny audiences. Their popularity has come through bloody hard work, and they deserve all the fame and fortune they get. Saw them live in Norwich last week (i resisted temptation to sell my ticket to a bloke offering 100 quid for it outside) and it was a truly amazing show.
Posted on Sun, 19 October 2003 at 19:53
#77
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
dammit, i hoped this thread had gone to the great big thread in the sky.
Posted on Sun, 19 October 2003 at 19:57
#78
Isness wrote:
Hahaha.
Ohhh, they’re very funny, yeah. But have as much musical merit as a tone deaf dead horse.
I don’t like 80s hair metal as a style, but I think a lot of the songs were pretty good, under the ego and endless guitar solos.
But I just don’t think The Darkness write good songs. And that’s the reason I really hate them. If they wrote something I thought was good, I’d like them, I think, because they’re funny.
But no.
Blargh.
Posted on Sun, 19 October 2003 at 20:46
#79
Bad Karma wrote:
Ladbrokes are giving 4/1 odds of The Darkness getting the Christmas number one.
Posted on Sun, 19 October 2003 at 21:21
#80
philzilla wrote:
apparently, The Wankness had to cancel a gig in Liverpool last night. singer’s voice packed in, or something.
surely that would make for a better gig?
Posted on Sun, 19 October 2003 at 21:35
#81
not_that_kind_of_guy (a story on the radio) wrote:
Bad Karma wrote:
Ladbrokes are giving 4/1 odds of The Darkness getting the Christmas number one.
the sad thing is, the darkness’s christmas single will be better than any other christmas song. don’t worry, it’ll still be shit but compared to the rest (i.e pop idols fame academy popstars be a solo un-success type rubbish) it must be an improvement. still, i do concede that the darkness should be banished to, literally, the REAL darkness. a place where no-one can see or hear or even acknowledge such an entity.
xxx
Posted on Sun, 19 October 2003 at 21:40
#82
allroy wrote:
philzilla wrote:
apparently, The Wankness had to cancel a gig in Liverpool last night. singer’s voice packed in, or something. surely that would make for a better gig?
:)
If he had a sore throat, they finally could live up to their name and play death metal.
Seriously, they’re not a bit original, but definitely more entertaining than real metal bands as Mötley Crue, Dimmu Borgir or the shame to all hairdressers, Nickelback.
Posted on Mon, 20 October 2003 at 05:53
#83
fadeout wrote:
Andrew Wk has actually sold 500,000 of his first album, I Get Wet. Very good for a debut album methinks. Also he doesnt rank of a record company manufactured boyband like The Darkness. Anybody hear about their record company paying the sun to feature them in the bizzare column regulary??
Posted on Mon, 20 October 2003 at 16:16
#84
Bad Karma wrote:
allroy wrote:
Seriously, they’re not a bit original, but definitely more entertaining than real metal bands as Mötley Crue, Dimmu Borgir or the shame to all hairdressers, Nickelback.
I don’t think anyone for one moment anyone could argue they are original,but then few bands are these days.
Also i don’t think anyone back in 2002 could have predicted that the most successful new UK rock band would be The Darkness.They had trouble getting signed at first no record company would touch them or take them serious if they are ‘manufactured boyband ’ then they manufactured themselves just like the Manics did.
Posted on Mon, 20 October 2003 at 17:47
#85
allroy wrote:
I just noticed that from this weekend on The Darkness will be touring Germany…
…supporting Meat Loaf.
It seems to me that this is quite a fitting package though I don’t think Meat Loaf fans will understand their music.
Posted on Wed, 22 October 2003 at 05:58
#86
Bad Karma wrote:
not_that_kind_of_guy wrote:
dammit, i hoped this thread had gone to the great big thread in the sky.
HaHa nope yet it hasn’t.
Well i heard The Darkness christmas single its really shite which is a shame because i liked the album.A much better christmas song is A Change At Christmas (Say It An’t So) by The Flaming Lips on the Ego Tripping At The Gates Of Hell EP.
Posted on Sat, 6 December 2003 at 15:25
#87
Labyrinth wrote:
sorry, but i think they’re shit aswell, very irritating but i do suppose they’ve chosen the write angle for the style of their music. it’s that kiind of thing that sells as we’ve all noticed & had to put up with
Posted on Tue, 9 December 2003 at 20:07
#88
allroy wrote:
Holy shit! The Darkness are coming on tour again and it’s completely sold out.
Now some (or maybe even most) of you might say that I should feel lucky to have saved some money, but I feel sorry instead…
…’coz they’re supported by The Wildhearts!
Posted on Wed, 4 February 2004 at 15:44
#89
johnnyboy wrote:
what gig are you going to? i saw that in munich they’re possibly going to play a bigger venue than planned… maybe than theres going to be additional tickets… :D
Posted on Sun, 8 February 2004 at 23:24
#90
allroy wrote:
I’ll try my luck at the Zeche in Bochum, unfortunately a city with no adequate bigger venues at hand.
But maybe I’m going to see the mighty Smoke Blow at the FZW in Dortmund again on the same day, as I suppose The Darkness will be playing all the major festivals this year and I can catch up with them there (e.g they’re already confirmed to play the Rheinkultur festival in Bonn, which is for free).
Posted on Tue, 10 February 2004 at 14:15
