#121
richboy wrote:
Teethgrinder wrote:
To make sure my recent moderation actions in the ‘Again and Again’ thread haven’t given the impression that I’m against discussing T?’s drummers, I would just like to repeat here what I said in my e-mail to richboy explaining why I edited his post:
i would like to say that rene is not against discussing the drummers - he cleared that up with me as he says above.
anyway, having seen the band live with fyfe, graham, keith and neil, i think fyfe was the best drummer, not only that therapy? had, but better than most other bands i can think of. in kerrangs review of their gig at the ulster hall (the one that turned out to be fyfe’s last gig with the band) when the magazine wasn’t quite so bollocks it said that he was the best young drummer in the british isles, and i’d go along with that.
having said that, fyfe left a long time ago. so therefore if they didn’t get a new drummer, there would have been no band for the last 8 years, so that does make the discussion kind of irrelevant. on the other hand, if graham or neil had been crap, there wouldn’t have been such a discussion either - because there would be a right answer. you have to admit that although everyone has their favourites, all of therapy?’s drummers have been very talented.
i think we should have a big drum-off comp between them all to decide
Posted on Mon, 20 October 2003 at 20:31
#122
tatty seaside town wrote:
Teethgrinder wrote:
I personally don’t understand why anyone would want to hold on to the past so much, especially because of the fact that he left the band early 1996, now almost 8 years ago! Therapy? has been in existance longer without Fyfe than with him.
I think thats not a point …
T? wouldn´t even exist if Fyfe wasn´t in T for the first 5 albums?
so its 5 albums him and 5 the others …
you can see it from different sites really …
Posted on Mon, 20 October 2003 at 21:47
#123
tatty seaside town wrote:
richboy wrote:
i think we should have a big drum-off comp between them all to decide
Yeah some drumm battle would be great :)
Like some DJ Battles *g*
I don´t think that graham or neil are crap … but as i said some months ago graham couldn´t play everything Fyfe could and the old songs didn´t feel right with him. But thats everybodys own feeling really!
Graham had a much more primitiv style … i don´t like primitive drummers … (that doesn´t mean, that they are crap players … but i like to hear some things going on, on the drums - some more like 8 or 16 notes and the speed is irrelevant … that doesn´t impress me … as i know how to play it)
I think Neil is a step forward.
Someone knows if he uses a timble for the old songs yet?
He didn´t have one on the last tour :(
Posted on Mon, 20 October 2003 at 21:53
#124
choi wrote:
Title: enough about drumming…
…who is the best looking one? ;)
I’m kinda biased, since I always had a thing for Fyfe, but I’ll vote for him anyway. Then again, I’m not too fussed these days, so I guess mostly anyone would do…
Posted on Tue, 21 October 2003 at 13:19
#125
tatty seaside town wrote:
It is all about Fyfe and his drumstick for me *g*
Posted on Tue, 21 October 2003 at 14:03
#126
Cactus wrote:
Here is my interesting T? drummer-related story. Loved Fyfe, he was a big part of why I ended up loving the band so much. Mid-late 90’s though, my second favourite drummer, with a very crisp and original style, was Cable’s drummer Mr Neil Cooper… So imaging my delight when my favourite band seemingly randomly hooked up with my 2nd favourite drummer… ahhh! I told lots of people who weren’t interested. And now I’ve told all of you!
Is it true Graham is related to Ronan Keating? If it is I’m not surprised T? never really mention it… though maybe they could have reached a whole new market supporting Boyzone… ‘hey kids, this one’s called Neck Freak…’
Posted on Tue, 21 October 2003 at 16:47
#127
tatty seaside town wrote:
Cactus wrote:
Is it true Graham is related to Ronan Keating?
Really? Would be interessting too … don´t know yet!
Boyzone crowd also could scream “potato junkie” :)
Posted on Tue, 21 October 2003 at 16:50
#128
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
I think one of them is related to someone in Boyzone, and also someone from B*Witched but I can’t remember the whys and wherefores of it, sorry.
Posted on Tue, 21 October 2003 at 19:41
#129
zero nero wrote:
graham is a cousin of ronan keating!
There exists a classic photo of therapy? and boyzone sitting around together backstage or at some awards, the look on the therapy? guys faces is priceless! Just too good for words, if looks could kill, the photographer would be a corpse, boyzone on the other hand are all quite chuffed looking, with the tough guys giving them some street cred!
I think the photo was in a hotpress magazine year book from about 5 years ago? must see if i can dig it up.
Posted on Tue, 21 October 2003 at 22:41
#130
tatty seaside town wrote:
Really would like to see that one … Must be fun!
Posted on Tue, 21 October 2003 at 23:21
#131
Andy D (Andy) wrote:
Fyfe all the way.
When he was with them,THERAPY? were still the best three-piece band around. THERAPY? made their best work during that period and Fyfe definitely contributed to that. His drum sound was very special, kinda metallic at some times like I never heard by any other drummer after again. Neil seems like a good bloke too. Graham didn’t appeal to me much.
Posted on Wed, 22 October 2003 at 22:02
#132
tokaarme wrote:
I was going through some old T? record reviews on finnish music magazines and noticed the following statement about Semi Detached: “..T? finally got rid of old drummer Fyfe who was playing what ever came to his mind…” (or something like that - finnish “symbolic” language is bit hard to translate.. :)
My personal opinion is that Fyfe is (was?) great drummer and I specially love that “bongo”-sound on Nurse, etc.. Currently I think that Neil is the greatest drummer of all time in all fuckin’ music business but maybe HA (being so fuckin’ great album) has something to do with that opinion :D
Posted on Tue, 4 November 2003 at 10:27
#133
ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:
Neil is fanfu*kintastic!With the same influences and styles to fyfe and the rest of the band, he fits perfectly. Graham was mint! His loose style fitted with what T? were doing at the time, but imagine if Fyfe had played on SP-YF? How cool would that have been, could have ended up with a totally different album.Anyway, perhaps this thread has died a death so to speak, and we could talk about something else…just a thought. If we dont then it will just be bickering and people putting down these three drummer’s talents. And lets face it none of us have ever acheived what these three guys have done, so maybe we should give them a break…
Posted on Tue, 4 November 2003 at 12:14
#134
drummersean wrote:
look who really cares who the is the better drummer as long as T? are playing i am happy all the drummers they have had have done an ace job and niel is doin ace at the moment so i say we just leave it here and now!!!!!!1111
Posted on Sun, 28 December 2003 at 01:16
#135
dano wrote:
I can’t believe this pointless debate is still going on!
Posted on Sun, 28 December 2003 at 02:49
#136
allroy wrote:
T? should go through an Echo & the Bunnymen phase, what would this debate be like then?
Sorry, Neil, no serious proposal. :)
Posted on Mon, 29 December 2003 at 10:49
#137
tatty seaside town wrote:
So after the new album is out?
We can expect this thread will go on with some more songs to be compared with each other … :)
Posted on Tue, 7 September 2004 at 20:47
#138
allroy wrote:
Anyone listening to Rise Up will be glad Neil’s in the band.
Posted on Tue, 7 September 2004 at 20:49
#139
Drengi wrote:
You can never for get about Fyfe he was pure class.
But in saying that, all the drummers that have passed through the halls of Therapy? have fitted the bill.
And I agree after hearing the sample of Rise Up, it was YEAH. Neil is really shaping up had is really getting to grips with the Therapy? sound but at the same time bringing something new to the band. Which is what you want.
Keep up the good work Neil!! Much appreciated.
Posted on Wed, 8 September 2004 at 09:34
#140
MarkoJii (Ukko Perkele) wrote:
Really can’t put the drummers of T? to “who’s best”-order…
I have enjoyed everyone’s playing on record and on stage. They play so differently comparing to each other (ok, Fyfe & Neil has similarities) that it is doomed to try to figure that out who’s best because there is so much opinions that are responces.
Somehow one The Smiths lyrics popped to my head: “Some girls are bigger than others, and some girls mothers are bigger than other girls mothers”. :D
Hopefully Neil likes to be in T? and don’t get fed up with touring like the 2 others…
Posted on Wed, 8 September 2004 at 10:36
#141
Dusty (Chris Davies) wrote:
It’s probably Fyfe but when I saw Neil playing live he was amazing. And I got his stick.
Posted on Wed, 8 September 2004 at 16:40
#142
sonofjaguare wrote:
Being a drummer myself(and pretty damn good I might add),I think Fyfe,Graham and Neil were and are some fine drummers and all have added to the T? sound.Obviously Fyfe shaped the sound for them early on and there are a lot of people who are loyal to him.I found T? again many years later when SPYF came out and I was blown away by Grahams playing.There was a lot of imagination on that album and it also grooved.I liked that.He does play a bit primitive at times but if that’s what’s called for then so be it.I would also call that playing simple.I do miss him in the band.i think Neil has injected some vigor into the band and put some fire under Andy and Micheals asses.I’m really not a fan of the double kick kit and the one rack tom but to each his own.
Posted on Thu, 9 September 2004 at 03:23
#143
philzilla wrote:
sonofjaguare wrote:
I’m really not a fan of the double kick kit and the one rack tom but to each his own.
like you can really hear that when you play the album…
Posted on Thu, 9 September 2004 at 18:41
#144
FNYANKEZ wrote:
Not being a drummer myself I can’t comment on any of the technical bits. SO I’ll just comment on the effect each seems to have (to me) on the music.
Fyfe clearly had more of a contribution to shaping the overall sound of the band than the others. His rhythms were much more diverse, original and (pardon the pun) groovy.
Graham to me ,seemed much more of a steady pounding big hitter in the John Bonham vein. But I agree with sonofjaguare, the stuff on SPYF was great. Especially Ten Year Plan, the drums drove that sone more than the guitar.
Neil seems to be more of a jackhammer. It’ll be interesting to really listen to his contributions on the new CD.
Posted on Thu, 9 September 2004 at 21:05
#145
sonofjaguare wrote:
philzilla wrote:
like you can really hear that when you play the album…
I’m just commenting on his kit.No I can’t hear what the kit looks like but I do know what it looks like and it looks like a kit from the hair metal days and it’s pretty cheesy.Either there should be another rack or lose the second kick and use a double pedal.Nothing against Neil but the kit is cheesy.
Posted on Thu, 9 September 2004 at 23:42
#146
tatty seaside town wrote:
i would prefer a double pedal too …
also cause he is just having one tomtom in front of him.
I think he just wants to impress the girls *g*
I would do it with a 6 string status bass of course :)
Posted on Thu, 9 September 2004 at 23:45
#147
Graeme55? (Graeme Williams) wrote:
Title: best therapy? drummer (poll merged)
my personal fav is neil cooper as he is the one who influenced me on the drums more than the other two.
what do ya think?
Posted on Wed, 19 April 2006 at 01:57
#148
rayo wrote:
Fyfe Ewing is one of the best drummers i’ve heard, followed closely by young Hopkins. Neil Cooper would not have made the music that those two captains created.
Posted on Wed, 19 April 2006 at 03:44
#149
Nitro wrote:
Neil!
Because, he’s here!
Posted on Wed, 19 April 2006 at 08:29
#150
Dennis wrote:
tatty seaside town wrote:
i would prefer a double pedal too …
Hmmm, probably agree myself with that, but I also think a lot of drummers are getting lazy and using two feet for all the fast bass drum work when sometimes they should be using one-footed techniques and developing the speed of their right foot (or left, if they are left-handed). Using two bass drums (or a double pedal) has a time and a place, of course, and there are some sounds that just don’t work one-footed, but I think you lose some of the bounce and the feel when you use two feet.
Posted on Wed, 19 April 2006 at 08:43
