#91
FATRIFFS wrote:
Allright! there’s no need to get excited.I’m just stating my opinion as a fan like everyone else.I prefered T? as a three piece & never realy took onboard the 4th member that’s all.Sorry if I offended anybody.You lot are talking like he’s dead or something ‘you didn’t even know him’ he’s still the same guy isn’t he.
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 19:41
#92
RobbyVDH wrote:
You did not offend me, it’s just that your first post did not show much respect for Martin.
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 19:52
#93
FATRIFFS wrote:
You don’t know what happened yet ,who says respect is due?
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 20:01
#94
Gilprix wrote:
I felt compelled to join as a member to just voice my sadness at Martin’s unprecedented departure. His talent will stay in our minds for many years to come. I presume also that there is more to his leaving than meets the eye, though it is something that we can only speculate about. We must respect their anonymous position on this matter.
The very best of luck Martin.
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 20:17
#95
Red_Mist wrote:
I think we’ll find out what happened sooner or later, but whats done is done and as long as they continue for a long time to come im happy.
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 20:32
#96
Michael wrote:
This must be hard for Martin, cos he was eager to play again, as he said in his post(s) of the last couple of weeks. I don’t think that he expected this to happen.
Something else that bothers me: the post-Infernal Love songs were all written for a fourpiece, weren’t they? I wonder how these songs are going to sound without a second guitar player. Certainly some songs will never sound the same again!
Let’s just wait for some ‘official’ statement on this matter. I can’t imagine it’s a quarrel about money, that just doesn’t seem to fit with the image I have of Therapy?
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 21:17
#97
soul doubt (an) wrote:
Pretty sad news!! In the beginning I couldn’t accept Martin in the band, but he proved he was a good musician and a great guy. And now I feel pretty sad I ever thought about him like that. I’m really dissapointed he had to leave… No matter what happened I’ll miss him!!!
Martin, if you read this, I wish you all the best! Hope we’ll hear from you soon!!!
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 21:18
#98
RobbyVDH wrote:
I agree with you Michael… I think it’s strange that nobody from Therapy? has replied yet to all the messages here …
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 21:20
#99
Andy D (Andy) wrote:
Nausea wrote:
good luck in the future whatever you do, martin.
i loved the ‘cello-songs’.. especially on infernal love. thank you.
(but i think andy and michael made the right choice. now just find fyfe, and force him to join for one last album/tour :D ).
One last tour? You’ve already made your mind up on the total split?
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 21:33
#100
White Psycho wrote:
100 posts in 2 days, something of a record I feel!
BIG surprise martin left but this isn’t the first time this kinda thing has happened but they’ll get over it and so will we, even if the guy did rock big time.
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 21:39
#101
Lenny wrote:
Its a pity he’s left but the band had always been Andy & Michael for me. Life goes on. I can’t believe that he’d be sacked for financial reasons though - Im sure the band aren’t that badly off.
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 21:48
#102
efilnikufesin wrote:
Title: Martin
This is a shame,
But i find it hard to believe Martin was “fired” - you could just picture Andy in a big fancy office suite, sitting in a big leather chair, smoking a cigar and telling Martin to clear out his desk - then Michael comes in dressed as a bouncer and manhandles him out of the room!
I dunno i think i am trying to make light of bad news.
Martin , you can play my cello anyday!
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 22:16
#103
Patrik_H wrote:
efiln, that was a fucking hilarious image, had me giggling for a good few minutes :)
to the people saying its about money and stuff,i seriously doubt it, therapy? have been in worse places than this before and nothing happened, i think this is just life, probably the ear problem.
in fairness,therapy? are an all for one one for all kinda band, theyre not greedy, money hungry or sell outs, theyre all good friends, and i think there has been a lot of unfair comments been made about andy and michael. its just a new transition, they were a 3 piece before, now they are again, its not the end of the world :)
But to martin, your a great guitarist and cellist, and you can see just by the comments here, how much people will miss you, thanks
Patrik
Posted on Fri, 19 March 2004 at 23:05
#104
delayed wrote:
that news is really disappointing.
i hope everythings ok with the guys!
good luck martin! :)
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 00:04
#105
3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:
RobbyVDH wrote:
I agree with you Michael… I think it’s strange that nobody from Therapy? has replied yet to all the messages here …
Yeah, that’s very strange. I know they respect us as much as we respect them, but T? must know there’s a discussion going on here. So, once again I ask you Andy, Michael and Neil to be honest with us. Don’t be afraid, we won’t bite… But, silence will only make things worse!!
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 01:12
#106
Deep Sleep wrote:
Hi there,
Just realised Therapy? will be back a trio again.
Martin leaving T? sounds pretty fucked up to me, wish him luck, and thnx for those nice years.
The only light at the end of the tunnel is that it will not mean that T? will quit.
So however…let’s rock on in 2004!!!!
Bye
N?
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 08:05
#107
Reverend Savage? wrote:
Christ, you don’t log on for a couple of days, and then come back to this!
I’ve gotta agree with lots that’s been said.
Martin will be sorely missed. A great musician, happy to make his contribution without having to be the centre of attention and, by all accounts, a top guy who always found time for the fans.
It would be nice if either party could say something to end the speculation, but if not, we have to respect that because we don’t know what has gone on. On the other hand both sides will know that in the absence of this, speculation is inevitable because recent news has been contradictory.
It’s sad news, but not a suprise (to me at least). When no mention was made of Martin’s absence at the Leeds gig on the recent tour (and at other gigs too, according to WoMmers)it was a bad sign.
Whover made this decision, my opinion is that it’s a bad one for the band musically - all the reasons why are in the many posts above this one, but sometimes there are reasons above and beyond the music…
I wish both sides all the best and hope that Martin knows that he’s got lots of fans on these boards.
Martin: Thanks for all the music - and let us know what you do next.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 09:48
#108
Citizen Erased wrote:
Maybe if it has all been as sudden and surprising event to Martin/the others as some people have suggested, there’s a chance of legal action (I’m guessing the band operated as a partnership and as such Martin can’t have been ‘wrongfully dismissed’ but I suspect that there is some sort of legal mechanism for such situations). If that’s the case, then both sides would probably be advised to avoid discussing matters on an open furm like this until things have been sorted.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 09:58
#109
Reverend Savage? wrote:
Hey Citizen.
Good common sense stuff.
Just to add: Even if there’s no legal action (hope it doesn’t come to that) a break-up ‘agreement’ could include a ‘don’t talk about it’ clause.
Speculation’s still inevitable, though.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 10:04
#110
fan'fucking'tastic wrote:
fuck I loved the guy and still do
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 10:06
#111
scotdamn wrote:
efilnikufesin wrote:
Martin , you can play my cello anyday!
Is this some indecent proposal?
By now I’m just curious what happened and how therapy? will sound in the future. I hope they make some stuff like Nurse again.
Maybe this is an answer for all the people who were eager to hear some bass on the next album.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 11:29
#112
RobbyVDH wrote:
Mikehell was online a few minutes ago but no reply whatsoever…
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 11:44
#113
Citizen Erased wrote:
I noticed he’d come on a few nights ago, and tried to get his attention, but no luck - but as he doesn’t seem to come on that often, he must have loads of posts to trawl through, so I guess we can’t be too fed up with him.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 12:17
#114
Misanthropologist (d) wrote:
Hello Martin <waves>, I see you there. I feel a bit guilty about comparing you to the guitarist from Linkin Park, now. :/ I hope everything is alright with you, wherever you are. Good luck.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 12:56
#115
MARK wrote:
Title: Martins Choice???
Hi
Ive just joined here, but been lurking for a while.
Is it not true that Martin used to be in the Banshees? I read in the paper the other day that their main guitarist had died, found in a hotel room.
Perhaps due to commitments, they required a guitarist quickly, and approached Martin to re-join. I am sure he enjoyed playing with them before they split.
This would constitute the Professional decision cited by Andy.
Just a thought
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 13:03
#116
richboy wrote:
Title: BAD NEWS
personally i never understood why martin joined therapy? anyway. don’t get me wrong, they’re one of my favourtie bands, but to me martin always seemed too talented for them! he can sing for a start, excellent guitarist and chellist and seems like an allround muso / session musician type of guy.
think this is a BAD thing for the band, live and recorded!
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 13:09
#117
Citizen Erased wrote:
He played on at least one Banshees album (I think it was either Peepshow, which is really good, or the one after that), I’m not certain he constituted a member of the band as such. I suspect it’s just coincidence, as the Banshees split a couple of years back, with Siouxsie and Budgie saying they were going to concentrate on The Creatures, but I guess its not outside the realms of possibility.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 13:09
#118
Bad Karma wrote:
Martin played cello and arranged strings for Skunk Anansie on the Stoosh album while he was still a member of T? so whatever the reasons are for his departure i don’t think its him wanting to work with another band.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 13:20
#119
deadsetgav wrote:
I suppose whoever made the decision to part ways did not take the decision lightly and so I can understand that the people involved are not quite ready to talk about it yet - 9 years is a fucking long time, if you just spilt would you want to pour your heart out on a public forum, maybe saying something you later regret or just get your head together for a few days?
I’m sure everyone involved is feeling pretty gutted about the whole situation at the moment and a bit of time to get things in perspective is expected.
I just hope all the guys are ok and remember that Therapy? are a fantastic fuckin band and the fans are thinking about them at a difficult time.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 13:32
#120
Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:
Therapy’s best music was when they were a 3 piece and thats a fact.To be quite honest I have lost some faith in T? since they lost Fife, once you lose a key member you start to lose the magic and while the music has been great post Infernal Love it has never hit the quality of the early days. Im sorry for Martin that he’s gone and I know he’s a lovely guy having met him a few times over the years but I believe T? will come back more focused than ever.
Its the kick up the arse that they need to get back on track.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 13:48
