#121
D4AMick wrote:
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awright that was my first impression. I am sure T? is gonna be great on, make a lot of super cool albums but somehow I have a feeling that we will always bear in our minds that Martins departure was a great loss. He was a hell of a cellist and Guitar rider.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Best wishes to T?
Best wishes to Martin! Take care!
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 14:53
#122
up_in_flames (Tom) wrote:
you have lots of spare time, don’t you?
Of course martin is a great loss for the band, especially for the live sound. Apart from that I was looking forward to some cello sounds on the next album as well, but it shouldn’t be.
So I wish both sides - martin and the remaining t? lads - all the best for the future.
rock on, big cheers and respect.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 15:15
#123
Denim Demon wrote:
martin, thanks for the great years, I really hope to hear some more great music from you in the future! I think you’re a great loss for the band (I only started to listen to tpy? when they were already a fourpiece), so it will be pretty strange to see only 3 men on stage. Still, I’m sure there’s a logical explanation for all this. Respect !
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 16:24
#124
philzilla wrote:
can’t say i’ll notice his absence, really.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 17:38
#125
soul doubt (an) wrote:
Excuse me? So you mean you don’t mind he’s out?
Well, it’s not that I don’t respect your opinion, but I think Martin really was an important member to me. Ok, in the beginning there where 3 of them, they made great music, but after infernal love it came extremely quite around the band, I think that time they realy needed Martin!! They seemed to have fun again on stage, TOGETHER, all four of them. At the end with Fyfe, I had the idea it was 2 against 1, probably because Fyfe wasn’t motivated anymore. I believe Martin saved Therapy? that time. If they wouldn’t have found Martin, would they still have existed? I’m not quite sure. I’m very gratefull to Martin for ‘saving’ (that’s what I think, I may be wrong) my favourite band, as well as for beeing a part of them. I realy hope they’ve got the power now to move on as a 3-piece.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 18:09
#126
RobbyVDH wrote:
philzilla wrote:
can’t say i’ll notice his absence, really.
I’m sure he will not miss you too…
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 18:41
#127
Flo (Fleur) wrote:
I am still really shocked by this news and I think that some more information about Martin leaving Therapy? would not hurt anyone.
As I said earlier,I don’t think we need to have the details but a little bit of explanation would be right.
I mean maybe it is an idea to send all the people on the mailing list a little message which is not so formal and distant.
The message on the website was very un-Therapyish (???) and strange, I actually had to read it twice before I really understood what the message was.
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 18:55
#128
Mr Sky High wrote:
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 20:27
#129
prisonbreaker wrote:
Flo wrote:
The message on the website was very un-Therapyish (???) and strange, I actually had to read it twice before I really understood what the message was.
yeah, i had the same feeling about it, now everything gets so serious and I’m not really used to that from T?, but is is a serious thing though,
hopefully we soon get some more information, i think it’s the least the fans could ask
Posted on Sat, 20 March 2004 at 22:21
#130
Cairnz wrote:
Title: Like cutting off a leg
Hi,
heard the news earlier, but found only time now to react. I don’t think it has anything to do with sack someone or don’t like someone or lowering costs… Seems to me that maybe they had an other perception of how T? would of should sound like in the future… could it be that?
Anyway, I met T? in Brussels last year, after their show in the Botanique, and also had some chitchat with Martin. Great guy!
For me also he has been a very important T? member with great influence on their sound, especially when performing live…
T? will never be the same…
Nevertheless they will certainly keep up the good rocking mood… no doubt ‘bout that…
but I’ll miss Martin! Good luck fellow, see you around!
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 01:08
#131
Cooper'sdrummer wrote:
Title: Martin leave’s therapy?
I didn’t actually found out about martin’s quitting the band until this afternoon, and Neil’s explained the reason.
1, health problems.
Don’t forget that Martin is still suffering from a damaged ear drum, and is still not allowed to play on stage.
2, musical differences.
nlike Andy, michael and Neil, Martin was trained classically And so therefore his musical tastes would differ verry verry much from the rest of the gies.
Besides, martin only did sessions for therapy before joining, and he may be restricted to doing studio work instead of going live.
Like the rest of you gies, i’m sorry to hear about his departure, if he carries on playing with therapy, chances are that he’ll be come perminently def.
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 01:22
#132
McBain wrote:
I tend to believe this “professional reasons” explanation. But leaving a band - or sacking a bandmember - is a grave decision and does certainly affect the relations of the people involved on a personal level.
This brief bulletin was signed by the remainig trio and in implicates that it was their decision, not Martins. At least that’s the way I read it.
Martin left the band during a song-writing and demo-recording process, or short after so I guess if they parted for personal reasons, it was about a creative issue.
Ergo, I’m pretty sure the next album will sound totally different to HA
I don’t believe they just thought about making more money as a threepiece and sacked him therefore.
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 11:03
#133
JSar666 wrote:
I’m so sad to hear that Cooper’sdrummer :( I just hope Martin’s ear heals properly and that maybe he could do some work with them in the future, even if that only means playing the cello in the studio for them.
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 11:27
#134
romy wrote:
rocking roxy wrote:
there you are for a few days not online…and then this happens…
exactly my thoughts.
and i agree with all of you, some information from the band itself would definitely not hurt.
anyway,just wanna wish Martin all the best for the future!
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 19:19
#135
tatty seaside town wrote:
Well its really a big suprise …
Martin was a really cool guy. 9 Years with T? …
I don´t want to hurt any of you guys … I really don´t like the idea that martin was kicked out or leaving T?
But when i remember the feelings i had when martin joined the band i need to say, that i always prefered T? as a 3 piece band. Although i really liked Martin and what he played.
But as i like the older T? songs more than the new ones. I prefer the old line up (Fyfe, Michael and Andy) also.
That doesn´t mean that i like what happened or appreciate it. Cause T? moved on.
But i hope they will do it also this time!
I will miss the chello parts most! But Martin played second guitar more often on their last tour together. I didn´t like the idea that most chello parts were played with the guitar.
Perhaps they get some 4th member just for the next tour. But i wouldn´t appreciate this. I like it, when bands have their fix line up.
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 19:29
#136
Citizen Erased (confused again) wrote:
tatty seaside town wrote:
Perhaps they get some 4th member just for the next tour.
someone else played cello on the Infernal Love tour.
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 19:35
#137
tatty seaside town wrote:
yeah a sweetie girl …
i remember the gig in vienna when they had her played the chello behind mike … he always turned around and smiled *g*
Well she wear a tiny skirt and always had to sit down, before she got the chello between her legs *g*
Perhaps that was the reason mike smiled? :)
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 19:38
#138
EvilElvis wrote:
I’m gutted. Truly gutted. I only started going to T? gigs in 1998, so for me, Martin was as much a part of Therapy? as Andy and Michael. Given that only a week ago Martin was saying he’s ready to rock again, and “no doubt” will be on tour, i can only assume that he’s leaving the band against his wishes.
Either way for me now, after 57 Therapy? gigs in the space of 6 years, i shall now no longer be going to live shows. I have a ticket for Norwich in May, and i shall go for one last time.
For me, the shows without Martin when he was ill were just not right. They were flat and lacking the extra depth Martin brings to the the band.
All good things must come to an end.
Take care Martin, best wishes for the future.
Nick.
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 20:27
#139
prisonbreaker wrote:
EvilElvis wrote:
All good things must come to an end.
that’s kinda like the same thing i fear, it could go very fast now,
though i hope of course they’ll rock like they never did before
Posted on Sun, 21 March 2004 at 20:35
#140
silverginger5 wrote:
I hope this doesn’t spell the demise of therapy, but hopefully boosts them on to greater things. I’ll still love them if it was a one man band so I can’t see it affecting the fan base that much, hopefully they made the right decision for themselves. Long live Therapy?
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 01:41
#141
tokaarme wrote:
Standinline wrote:
>Another Really Strange Thing is…
Yesterday I find out that Paradise Lost-Drummer, Lee Morris, Has left Paradise Lost and now…
Mr.M. is leaving T?
Wouldn’t it be great if these two talented fellows would start their own group?!?!? Let’s get Flea for bass and Zack de la Rocha for vocals.. What a supergroup would that be :cool: :p :D
And we could name that band as “Audiomaster” :rolleyes:
Seriously: I’m losing my mind - I miss Martin… :(
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 07:20
#142
JSar666 wrote:
Martin and Fyfe should get together, put tatty or 3ddo oin bass duties and form a band called Counselling?
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 07:54
#143
Innocent X wrote:
Title: RESPECT
This is a great loss for the band, although they will do fine without him. It will never be the same again though …
Good luck Martin in whatever you do.
I’m not going to speculate. I just ask a decent explanation. We support the band for many years and we are entitled to know the real reason for his leave.
Setting this up as a simple news item is a shame and definitely not respectful, nor for us, nor for Martin. If we don’t get more than this, you can stick your “best fans of the world” up yours.
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 08:19
#144
motherh666 wrote:
harsh but fair. Some of the guys on this board dedicate themselves to this band. They go to all the gigs, buy all the cd’s including the 50 quid japanese import pish. Others have a T? tattoos and a dozen fucking T-shirts in their cupboards. This is dedication and such dedication deserves honesty.
I’m sure T? have a lot to talk about and sort out themselves, but a short message which looks like some fucking lawyer wrote it is not enough.
Everybody who has met Martin knows he’s a cool guy and everyone who’s seen him play know he’s an outstanding musician and will be sorely missed.
Sorry it’s a Monday morning rant, but I was hoping to know more after the weekend and there is still nothing. Please let us know whats going on guys!
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 09:46
#145
scotdamn wrote:
I only see one positif thing..Now i never have to listen to a dull Diane again…I don’t mind the song as long as it is performed as rock song…
And Therapy? got over some worse trouble IMO. So i hope they will rock on…
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 12:27
#146
Pecoranera wrote:
I’ve been two weeks in Lapland, I started up my pc two mins ago and the first news I see is this…shit…I’d better come back to Lapland. :mad:
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 12:41
#147
Fordonian wrote:
Are we going to hear anything about it on thursday then if Andys on totalrock? I’d rather not hear it that way but please can someone tell us something?
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 13:01
#148
Andy D wrote:
As long as Andy and Michael stick together T? will still exist but if one of them decides to leave I think they couldn’t use the name THERAPY? anymore.
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 13:27
#149
Ronald wrote:
Title: Where is the decency
Ok,
I have been reading the post about Martin leaving Therapy? and I am really astonished by some reactions by some people in that topic.Therapy? have always been very open towards us which is very good,but the things written about Michael and Andy are really a punch below the belt: We don’t know what happened…Some things are really insulting, like saying they fired Martin or that splitting the money with the 3 of them is better…You should know better than that…never forget that they don;t owe us anything but albums and gigs;)…
I say: Rock on Therapy? and I say Martin, do the same!
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 13:27
#150
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
Hia Ronald
I moved your thread into this one, as it’s still really on this topic. And I add that I totally agree with your sentiment. I know people are upset, of course we are, but if the guys all felt this was the best way to go then we should be respectful of that and have less of this nonsense about it being monetary and the like.
Posted on Mon, 22 March 2004 at 13:34
