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#211

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

You know what, we’ve put with a shit load of things from this band, usually consisting of lond DEALYS between albums, drummers like they grow on trees and now this shit. If you guys do anything, get in the fucking studio and use the emotion that your feeling at the moment to get some songs down. I’m loosing my patience with this!

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 09:24

#212

MIKEHELL wrote:

Title: There…I said it!

Hello all. Michael McKeegan here…just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions regarding Martin’s departure. Basically what happened was that Neil, Andy and myself found ourselves moving in a different musical direction to Martin. We felt it would be a compromise to continue in a situation where neither we nor Martin were happy and that the best way to realise this was to revert to a trio. As we hinted before, this was the hardest decision we ever had to make, as Martin is a great guy and one of the best musicians around…but we thought we should address the situation now rather than let the creative and personal relationships deteriorate. I know it was a big shock for most people but to be honest the band probably wouldn’t have continued the way it was.

While we’re on the subject I just wanted to say how disappointed I was by the reactions from some of the people on the message boards. To suggest in any fashion that the split was due to MONEY is absolutely absurd and those involved should hang their heads in shame. It was interesting to see that some of the people voicing their theories loudest, are some of the same people who were previously quick to email us demanding guestlist or hard to find releases. However, in this instance, not one of them bothered to contact us direct at the churchofnoise and ask what had happened or how things were. Weak.

Anyway, let’s be positive. I feel any change is good, if initially weird, but to be honest life goes on and I know we have a ton of killer new songs and that Martin will come up with a cool new project. On behalf of Andy, Martin, Neil and myself I’d like to thank all the genuine people who have given us their support and wished us well in the future..we genuinely appreciate it…

Michaelx

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 10:27

#213

Vemmy wrote:

I can perfectly well live the rest of my life not knowing what is the reason for Martin not being a member of Therapy? anymore. It is none of my business. As long as Therapy? keeps doing music the way they have done this far, I will be buying their records.

Some of you seem to think, that because you buy everything that says “Therapy?” on top of it and go see every possible gig, you have the right to know every single detail about everything. That’s really scary. Do the fans own the band? Is a band supposed to do what the fans want them to, no matter what the band wants? Something here reminds me about something that had something to do with the late John Lennon… Perhaps some of you should just go and buy your own tamagochi (if there are any left). There’s a toy that you can do whatever you want with.

Artists do what they do, for whatever reasons they might have. In this case, the artist produces music. If you don’t like the music, don’t buy it, and if you do like it, then buy it. If the changes in the bands line-up bother you so much that you can’t sleep at night, go see a shrink, before you become the next Marc Chapman. The band’s internal affairs are not automatically the property of the fans. If these changes affect the music, then do as I said above: like it -> buy it, and vice versa.

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 10:43

#214

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

Title: @Mikehell

Thanks. You can eat your cake now. :)

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 10:44

#215

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Thanks for writing, Michael. Umm, not too sure I have anything constructive to say, but it seemed rude clamouring for answers and then ignoring you when you responded… (I always sound insincere anyway :p) Any clues you can give us about just how the band’s direction is going to be different? (I know: want want want). Good luck in all things (to all of you)!

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 10:46

#216

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

Thanks Michael for clearing things up. I’m sure this is what most of us really wanted. Your explanation shows me that the decision the four of you made was the only right one; both for Therapy? and for Martin.

I can understand that you’re dissapointed by some of the reactions on the board. Some of them really were. But please believe that most of us are sincere and care about T? a lot! :D
We look forward to the new songs and I hope you’ll take the time to make again a great album.

3ddo

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 10:53

#217

Michael wrote:

Well then, the problem seems to be solved. Although it’s still sad to know Martin is no longer a part of T? anymore, the reason for his leave seems plausible to me.
Cheers Michael for clearing things up, I can’t wait to hear some of the new songs!!

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 11:04

#218

Fordonian wrote:

What to say?…I know!!…

3 Cheers (or maybe 3 beers);
One - to say thankyou to Michael for explaining it all
Two - for the contination of T? for as long as possible
Three - to wish Martin all the best in the future.

So… Hip Hip!…

Hows that? :D

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 11:16

#219

motherh666 wrote:

Cool, sorry if I ever got a little too opinionated about anything I tend to run away a little after a few coffees. I still think you guys killed him though.

Are you guys going to stay a 3-piece or will you considder recruting somebody to fill any possible gaps?

take care,

Seb

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 11:20

#220

Jello Biafra wrote:

Spot on Mikehell thank’s for the info.
I dont know who half these fuckin people think they are demanding answers nad speculating on trash.
you and andy owe nobody no answers we owe YOU a lifetimes rocking…
RobbyVDH et al lay off and know your place your fans not wives or lovers or even anyone who needs to know answers.
See you in cork motherfuckers

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 11:44

#221

ColdEthyl? wrote:

Thanks a lot, Michael, for those explanations. Clearing things really up a little. I think, most people here (myself included) were in shock because of Martin the nice guy, having a kind word for everyone. (And this is the Martin we’ll all miss painfully) Musical differences then aren’t good for any of you guys, and not good for us, the fans. But I’m glad the reason is no longer a mystery.

Keep up the good work and thumbs up!

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 11:46

#222

Innocent X wrote:

Thanks for the explanation, Michael. It’s a pity, it comes so late. I understand this is not easy for you guys and I understand you need some time. The way it was posted though made a lot of people angry, I guess.

There were a lot of speculations, some were fair, some were not, but you should look at this in a positive way. If members of the WOM didn’t care about Therapy?, they wouldn’t react so intensely. As stated earlier by some people, some of the members almost dedicate their life to the band. It was a real shock for some of us. And when you’re pissed, you often say things you don’t mean.

If Martin might read this, please let us know about your future projects. You’ll always be in our short list.

And to the current threesome :D : DON’T YOU EVER QUIT !

Respect !

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 12:08

#223

Michael wrote:

Jello Biafra wrote:

Spot on Mikehell thank’s for the info.
I dont know who half these fuckin people think they are demanding answers nad speculating on trash.
you and andy owe nobody no answers we owe YOU a lifetimes rocking…
RobbyVDH et al lay off and know your place your fans not wives or lovers or even anyone who needs to know answers.
See you in cork motherfuckers

Don’t cross the line now! Some of the folks on these boards, like our Belgian friend Robby, have been die-hard fans of T? for ages, going to every concert when humanly possible. They all love T? (so do I!), and I can fully understand they were puzzled and wanted some explanation. So maybe it’s you who should lay off, cos I don’t think your accusations are fair either…

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 12:14

#224

Andy D (Andy) wrote:

I was right! I was right! I was right!
well almost.

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 13:16

#225

rocking roxy wrote:

i think, if we would have get immediately a better explanation, than just this short note, then there wouldn’t have been all those speculations…

and i think it’s normal, that if things are going on strange, the brain starts working, cause you want to find an explanation for what’s going on, or not…

i also don’t understand what’s wrong, if you want to know what really happens…
i know, some people don’t want to know, and just want to listen to the cd’s and have a good time at the concerts…i think so too, with other bands…but when it’s concerning your most favorit band, for which you care most, isn’t it normal then, if you are expecting an answer?

so now we finally got it…and we can sleep better now. thank you michael.

concerning to writing to the con (and probabaly i should shut up now): as we all had to wait so long here for a reply, why should people would have wrote to the con to ask for…wouldn’t that have been the same result?

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 13:22

#226

mooneycult wrote:

I agree completely.

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 14:04

#227

Alan wrote:

Thanks for the reply MIKEHELL.

However, I can’t help feel that by stating the bands reasons last week, you would’ve prevented some of the perceived ill-feeling and accusations that have appeared previously in this thread. I’m not saying the band had any “obligation” to state anything - it just would’ve been nice, that’s all. ‘Cos I know I was damn worried about what was going on.

Incidently, I’ve never emailed CON looking for freebies.

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 14:12

#228

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

You can get freebies from CON? This I must try…:D

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 14:37

#229

irishlady wrote:

Innocent X wrote:

There were a lot of speculations, some were fair, some were not, but you should look at this in a positive way. If members of the WOM didn’t care about Therapy?, they wouldn’t react so intensely. As stated earlier by some people, some of the members almost dedicate their life to the band. It was a real shock for some of us. And when you’re pissed, you often say things you don’t mean.

exactely my point of view, thanks.

thank you for this statement, mikehell.

as for mailing to c.o.n. i agree w/ roxy…and to be honest, i don´t think there would have been an anwer on this matter…i remember when i asked st. about graham after he left T? i received a very disappointing mail (i don´t know who wrote it and i won´t repeat the content here, but maybe this was because my question was none of my business…) why should any of the left T?members reply mails on this topic when it´s much easier to put a statement on the wall of mouth or the website…?!

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 14:52

#230

Alan wrote:

hoochalobster wrote:

You can get freebies from CON? This I must try…:D

Oh yes, it’s the easiest thing in the world, all you have to do is say “I love Shameless 4EVA” in the email.

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 14:58

#231

rocking roxy wrote:

irishlady wrote:

…and to be honest, i don´t think there would have been an anwer on this matter…

that’s actually exactly what i was thinking…just didn’t want to say it loud, as it so that you have to be very carefull with saying things loud, which is really hard for me…

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 15:14

#232

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

Alan wrote:

Oh yes, it’s the easiest thing in the world, all you have to do is say “I love Shameless 4EVA” in the email.

Nooooooooo I can’t, it’d be like selling my soul…:(

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 15:21

#233

FieFox wrote:

All I have to say is…MARTIN, I’LL MIS YOU LIKE HELL :(

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 16:35

#234

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

That’s not very friendly of you FieFox, and that’s an understatement! If you have something personally to say to Martin, be a sport and say it to him face to face!

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 16:48

#235

RobbyVDH wrote:

Jello Biafra wrote:

Spot on Mikehell thank’s for the info.
I dont know who half these fuckin people think they are demanding answers nad speculating on trash.
you and andy owe nobody no answers we owe YOU a lifetimes rocking…
RobbyVDH et al lay off and know your place your fans not wives or lovers or even anyone who needs to know answers.
See you in cork motherfuckers

I don’t know why you are attacking me all of a sudden… anyway, I agree with a lot of things Mikehell has written, but if he’s honest and takes a look in the mirror, I hope he admits that the original communication done to the fans was pretty poor. And the message he posted today, could have been posted last week as well.

I’ve been going to T? shows for more than 11 years now, that does not mean in any way that the band owes me anything at all. All I asked for (together with almost everyone on this board) was an explanation to at least try to understand why Martin is gone.

Now I know and I think we can only respect this decision. I just hope they did not decide to play hardcore techno from now on because then Belfast will be my last show :D

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 17:12

#236

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

RobbyVDH wrote:

. I just hope they did not decide to play hardcore techno from now on because then Belfast will be my last show :D

Don’t be afraid Robby, that will never happen!! If so, Andy would have played totally different songs in his three hours radio show ;)

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 17:37

#237

Kaatje wrote:

Still don’t think that T? owed us any explanation on the spot, they were probably already having a tough time even without all the accusations from some of the people on this forum.
Mikehell: thanx for clearing some people’s heads up!
Keep on rocking lads, I will support you all the way!! If it kills me!! :D

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 17:44

#238

deadsetgav wrote:

3ddo-on-the-balcony wrote:

That’s not very friendly of you FieFox, and that’s an understatement! If you have something personally to say to Martin, be a sport and say it to him face to face!

Dunno whether there is a language barrier here but i don’t think that was an insult to Martin, but to me that expression means ‘i will miss you a lot’…

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 17:58

#239

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

All right FieFox, in that case I misinterpreted you. Sorry.

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 18:00

#240

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

Title: what mikehell said…

Well I hate to tell you I told you so but…These guys are genuine, obviously the reason would have been genuine too! To all those who doubted, it’s up to you to voice your support for band even louder than ever to redeem yourselves.
Dear evilpriest redeem those who have sinned against you they know not what they have done…:O

Posted on Thu, 25 March 2004 at 18:10

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