Wall of Mouths

Like I said on PAGE 3 of this thread.

“Let’s hold judgement ‘till we know for sure what happened.”

Glad I did. There’s usually a simple explanation for things like this.

And Mikehell!!!!
Thanks for finally shutting up the Doubting Thomas’.

3ddo-on-the-balcony wrote:

All right FieFox, in that case I misinterpreted you. Sorry.

Of course you misunderstood me…I have nothing but great respect for Martin !!!!

Ok…it’s forgotten…apoligy accepted ;)

rocking roxy wrote:

i think, if we would have get immediately a better explanation, than just this short note, then there wouldn’t have been all those speculations…

and i think it’s normal, that if things are going on strange, the brain starts working, cause you want to find an explanation for what’s going on, or not…

i also don’t understand what’s wrong, if you want to know what really happens…
i know, some people don’t want to know, and just want to listen to the cd’s and have a good time at the concerts…i think so too, with other bands…but when it’s concerning your most favorit band, for which you care most, isn’t it normal then, if you are expecting an answer?

so now we finally got it…and we can sleep better now. thank you michael.

concerning to writing to the con (and probabaly i should shut up now): as we all had to wait so long here for a reply, why should people would have wrote to the con to ask for…wouldn’t that have been the same result?

And though it took Michael quite a time to come out of the closet with the answer: Personally I’m glad to be a fan of a band taking their fans seriously enough to give explanations at all.

hello all,
martin here again after a long time not being on the w.o.m…
just wanted to say sth. to the “martin left T? because of financial reasons” thing…
i can´t understand at all how anyone can think that martin has left T? due to “money conflicts”. everyone who knows T? and martin mc c. knows the band is like a family and everyone was equal, it was a giving and taking, no one was like he wanted to be a superstar or wanted to make a big carreer…it was all about doing what they liked most- playing together and touring. there´s a reason why T? sometimes like to dissociate from the success of troublegum, many fans don´t even think about that (“i`m sick and tired of going nowhere”…)
you just had to look at martin during a show and you knew he was doing what he loved most.
well, that´s my point of view…
greetings to ya all,
martin

What the hell is your problem?

Did I ever say anywhere that the band owes me anything?

MIKEHELL wrote:

Hello all. Michael McKeegan here…just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions regarding Martin’s departure. Basically what happened was that Neil, Andy and myself found ourselves moving in a different musical direction to Martin. We felt it would be a compromise to continue in a situation where neither we nor Martin were happy and that the best way to realise this was to revert to a trio. As we hinted before, this was the hardest decision we ever had to make, as Martin is a great guy and one of the best musicians around…but we thought we should address the situation now rather than let the creative and personal relationships deteriorate. I know it was a big shock for most people but to be honest the band probably wouldn’t have continued the way it was.

While we’re on the subject I just wanted to say how disappointed I was by the reactions from some of the people on the message boards. To suggest in any fashion that the split was due to MONEY is absolutely absurd and those involved should hang their heads in shame. It was interesting to see that some of the people voicing their theories loudest, are some of the same people who were previously quick to email us demanding guestlist or hard to find releases. However, in this instance, not one of them bothered to contact us direct at the churchofnoise and ask what had happened or how things were. Weak.

Anyway, let’s be positive. I feel any change is good, if initially weird, but to be honest life goes on and I know we have a ton of killer new songs and that Martin will come up with a cool new project. On behalf of Andy, Martin, Neil and myself I’d like to thank all the genuine people who have given us their support and wished us well in the future..we genuinely appreciate it…

Michaelx

You are daammmmmnn right!!

“Champagne for our real friends…”

Cheers T? & Martin!! Good Luck in the future!!

E.

The word is out now, we know what happened and why, so can we please stop pissing each other off?

Amen once again!

I’m not particularly keen on arguing through messages/posts, sitting in front of a computer. Therefore I really wish I won’t be upsetting anyone or starting new riots. However I couldn’t help noticing how ungrateful some people always seem to be…
By stating that if we’d been given an explanation much earlier in time we wouldn’t have started some silly conjectures (as if we’ve been watching too many soap operas on the telly) is a little offensive and lacks respect for a band that’s always been very open and honest to their fans.

Before Michael’s statement we (no, not all of us)were “angry” at them for keeping quiet on the matter of Martin leaving.
After the statement, besides having our curiosity fully satisfied, we seemed to feel attacked by some words, those of a band disappointed by what people they believed were faithful fans and distant friends had been thinking about them.
And that’s when the fans say, “Hey it’s your fault if we’d been doing that. You only had to clear things up before we started”. Thank you very much.
However you put it, it’s a no-win situation for Therapy?. It’s never our fault. I hate to be ironic, it gets on my nerves but is this what a band get by behaving just like anyone else? Being so down to earth, up for a chat and a beer anytime? Those who put themselves on pedestals are adored like gods, so…do you really have to behave that way to avoid situations like this?

Instead of wasting energy sending out negative thoughts, we should just put a full stop to the discussion and use that energy to continue supporting (mentally, emotinally and physically - hope that doesn’t sound too disturbing…)Andy, Neil and Michael more than ever during hard times and again wishing the best of lack to Martin McCarrick for his future plans. End of a cycle, new beginnings. Looking forward to whatever comes next :)

Oh, and I don’t think the number of shows one’s been attending should decide how much you care for the band. I guess if we knew how to turn cornflakes into gold or grow money as I grow basil in my garden we could just go anywhere we’d like! :p

Shra-Mee wrote:

Words of wisdom!

Really? Are you sure? :p

belfagor wrote:

I guess if we knew how to turn cornflakes into gold or grow money as I grow basil in my garden we could just go anywhere we’d like!

Title: martin

hey,
not too pleased about this Martin business. i think we could do with some clarification of what lead to his departure. the news bulletin is pretty lacking as far as that’s concerned. for me the band is as much about the members as it is about the music and i’d like to know just how willing Martin was in all of this. i’m skipping future therapy? shows until i find out more because i get the impression someone being shafted here and that’s not what the band is about for me.

yertle.

yertle, go to page 7 and read Cooper’sdrummer’s post and page 11 for MIKEHELL’s post. That should be enough explanation.

As for not going to future gigs - your loss.

I <suspect that if you’d rather not go to see the band just because Martin left under these circumstances, then Andy, Michael and Neil would probably prefer that you kept your money too. You’re only going to miss out, but hey, your choice.

Me, I’ll still be down the front every chance I get.

Robby,I am not gonna send you any emails back so don’t bother. I just think loads of your comments are way out of order and if I want to say it here I will say it here and yes you are not the only one, there are others of whom I think they are going too far!

Reverend Savage? wrote:

Really? Are you sure? :p

Alright, perhaps I should consider giving up Alchemy :p