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We were planning to book Therapy for the end of the year for a gig in Belgium.
So we started contacting some agencies that could book Therapy?

The main agency told us that it maybe would be possible but then we would have to come up with 30.000 euro (20.000 pounds), ok, after we pulled ourselves back together we started calculating and figured with some extra sponsoring and investors this would be possible. We already had a few big sponsors that wanted to jump on the wagon with us (Stella Artois, Beckers, KBC bank). So the 30k would be in reach. All of the sudden we got a message from another agency in holland who told us that as of Februari 1st Therapy asked a new price… 100.000 euros per gig…

I don’t know if any of this is true but 100k euro for a gig is just outrageous.. is there anyone who can confirm this please?
We always thought and still think the guys from therapy? are the coolest guys in the music industry so it’s hard to believe they would pull a stunt like this…

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 15:11

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#1

Michael wrote:

This can’t be right, I can’t imagine that they would ask a price that high. They have played loads of smaller festivals in the last couple of years, and I don’t think these festivals would have booked them if they had asked a price like that. I can’t tell you form sure though. Perhaps you could ask the organization of these smaller festivals? You might ask the guys from Rock Zottegem, Lokerse Feesten, Leffinge Leuren, or similar festivals.

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 15:37

#2

sister wrote:

no, that 100.000 euros-story can’t be true.

when t? played at rock zottegem a couple of years ago, i asked the organiser and he told me that they were asked about 50.000 euros (180.000 good old belgian francs).
i can’t imagine t?’s price has gone up that fast, after (belgian-charts-wise) relatively little success…

Fonz wrote:

We always thought and still think the guys from therapy? are the coolest guys in the music industry so it’s hard to believe they would pull a stunt like this…

they wouldn’t, believe me!

Fonz wrote:

All of the sudden we got a message from another agency in holland

never believe those dutch dudes i’d say! ;)

Fonz wrote:

We were planning to book Therapy? for the end of the year for a gig in Belgium.

hey, and keep up the good work!

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 16:31

#3

RobbyVDH wrote:

Gie, shame on you… 50K euro is approx. 2M old Belgian francs :D

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 17:45

#4

sister wrote:

ooops - never been that good in mathematics - 1.800.000 i meant ;)

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 17:51

#5

RobbyVDH wrote:

that’s still quite wrong actually…

50,000 euro = 2,016,995 old Belgian francs…

I’m a financial analyst you know :D

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 18:59

#6

sister wrote:

…which is exactly why i wrote “about” 50.000 euros…

by the way, taken into account the current inflation, the current economic crisis, the continuously decreasing world trade, the price of water and air nowadays, the belgian judicial mess, the recent bomb-attacks, the recent interest-lowerings by certain national banks and the coming elections in both belgium and the U.S., 50.000 euros now must indeed have been about 180.000 belgian francs in 2001. :eek: not?

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 19:20

#7

RobbyVDH wrote:

no… you made the same mistake again :D

180.000 belgian francs… try again :D

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 20:52

#8

sister wrote:

oh hell - :mad:
1.800.000!

Posted on Thu, 11 March 2004 at 21:29

#9

Nitro wrote:

Fonz wrote:

I don’t know if any of this is true but 100k euro for a gig is just outrageous.. is there anyone who can confirm this please?

1. Are you serious? As I’m also running a promotion company, I don’t believe they ask for this amount. There must be something wrong. Rockstar bands ask for this or higher price. Maybe, their agent didn’t trust you, so he asked you this price, I’m not sure.

2. If you wanna book someone or band, or etc. just contact the main agent. (for example, T?’s agency company is Helter Skelter) don’t get in touch with someone else. They ask for unbelievable amounts for their comissions. For example, while we were trying to book a band last year, (don’t ask me their name), their agent asked for 100.000 Dollars. Then, an agent from Germany told us that he could help us. One day he phoned and told us that he could book the band for 300.000 Euros!!! Can you imagine it? We were thinking 100.000 Dollars was high, he offered us 300.000 Euros!!!

3. I don’t think that this is the right place to discuss this kind of things. I don’t think a fan thinks of how much money T? guys earn in a concert or anywhere. It is better to contact other promoters for the price. If you want I can give you the contacts of the Turkish promoter. You can ask him their deal, but I don’t think he wants to share his knowledge with you.

Posted on Fri, 12 March 2004 at 08:20

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Jason1310 wrote:

Well this is interesting, because for my university degree, I was going to organise a gig with all proceeds going to charity. I was going to contact the band (Therapy) first by e-mail, but might it better going through the booking agent?, despite the fact that with it being a chairty gig, I’m trying to keep costs as low as possible.

Posted on Fri, 12 March 2004 at 21:50

#11

Taunty Dan wrote:

erdemcapar wrote:

I don’t think that this is the right place to discuss this kind of things. I don’t think a fan thinks of how much money T? guys earn in a concert or anywhere.

Totally agree, we don’t want any business talk on these pages. ‘Fan-site’, remember that.

Posted on Sun, 14 March 2004 at 15:48

#12

Citizen Erased wrote:

Taunty Dan wrote:

I don’t think a fan thinks of how much money T? guys earn in a concert or anywhere.

Really? Surely its important, because firstly, if the guys don’t earn that much, then they won’t be able to carry on (unless they made sufficient money in the mid 90s), which would be a very bad thing.

Secondly, if I’m going to fork out a wadge of cash for tickets, T-shirts and albums, I’d like to know that the main beneficiaries of that are going to be the band.

Thirdly, they are a good band with good tunes that they want to play for us, so it’s nice to know that they in turn aren’t getting less than the ‘market rate’, whatever that might be; and

Finally, this is a fan site, therefore ANY aspect of the band should be up for discussion - freedom of speech etc etc.

Oh, and I’m an accountant :cool: , but that’s by the by ;)

Posted on Sun, 14 March 2004 at 16:08

#13

Taunty Dan wrote:

ok, fair comment, i just think this guys trying to stir up a bit of shit by coming on here moaning, he could give the band a bad name.

I’m an accountant too, glad i’m not the ONLY one on these here pages!

Posted on Sun, 14 March 2004 at 16:15

#14

Citizen Erased wrote:

Heh heh, there’s more of us abut in the world than people think ;)

Taunty Dan wrote:

i just think this guys trying to stir up a bit of shit by coming on here moaning, he could give the band a bad name.

Which is a bad thing to do, and I do disagree with his comments.

Posted on Sun, 14 March 2004 at 16:30

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motherh666 wrote:

I can’t see them charging that much. Ticket prices have always been 2-3 quid cheaper than most gigs I go to. I would gladly pay 15 quid a Ticket but don’t have to so I can’t see that they require a silly amount of fees to play a gig.

Posted on Mon, 15 March 2004 at 10:32

#16

Kill_Hill (Brendan) wrote:

From what I know T? are chargin around 4,000 to 5,000 to play cork and i think thats euros. I may be wrong though.

Posted on Mon, 5 April 2004 at 11:58

#17

Alan wrote:

Well, there’s 250 tickets for the Cork gig at 25 Euros a pop. That’s a total of 6,250 Euros. So I guess about 4,000 for Therapy? would be about right. The rest would have to pay the other 2 bands, plus the security. The venue/promotor will take the bar takings… is that the way these things work?

Posted on Mon, 5 April 2004 at 12:35

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zipless wrote:

Alan wrote:

… is that the way these things work?

just about. i can’t imagine that T? would charge alot more than above mentioned amount. all the clubs T? played in our area over the years wouldn’t fork out so much money, ‘cos they simply can’t afford it. the club i was working for had a top wage of about 2000euros. and we booked bands just as big as T? :cool: we had an offer to get motörhead a few years back, and they wanted “only” 6000euros. but then again we are talking about promoters… just think football or the “red mist” thread about the T? support slot.

Posted on Sat, 10 April 2004 at 21:59

#19

zipless wrote:

Alan wrote:

… is that the way these things work?

btw: not in the US tho’…

Posted on Sat, 10 April 2004 at 22:01

#20

Andy D (Andy) wrote:

Well 100 k is still cheap.

The organisor of Graspop metal meeting is a good friend of mine and he’s been trying to get AC/DC over there for a few years now even if it costs him all the profits the festival has ever made but even if they wanted to come, wich isn’t the case, it would cost him 3.500.000 euros at least.

Posted on Mon, 19 April 2004 at 19:38

#21

RobbyVDH wrote:

Bands like AC/DC and Metallica are just completely out of reach for a festival like Graspop, you would need at least between 40 and 60.000 people I guess…

Posted on Mon, 19 April 2004 at 19:54

#22

motherh666 wrote:

That’s rediculous for such an crusty old bunch of has-beens. (Still wouldn’t mind seeing ACDC before they call it quits :p)

Posted on Mon, 19 April 2004 at 19:56

#23

Andy D (Andy) wrote:

Speaking of Graspop Metal Meeting, I have suggested THERAPY? a couple of times to my friend and he loves them to bits in the meanwhile but he thinks they are too punky to play there. What do you guys think? To give you an idea: this year’s line-up consists of Judas Priest, Soulfly, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, Slipknot “begins to vomit spontaneously”, Cradle Of Filth, Saxon, Fear Factory and many others. In previous years they have given us Iron Maiden and Type O Negative and such.
Could THERAPY? fit in this list?
I know Michael would enjoy playing there.

Posted on Tue, 20 April 2004 at 22:19

#24

JSar666 wrote:

I think they could play there if they balanced their set towards the heavier songs.

Posted on Wed, 21 April 2004 at 06:38

#25

ColdEthyl? wrote:

Fiestaboy wrote:

Speaking of Graspop Metal Meeting, I have suggested THERAPY? a couple of times to my friend and he loves them to bits in the meanwhile but he thinks they are too punky to play there. What do you guys think? To give you an idea: this year’s line-up consists of Judas Priest, Soulfly, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, Slipknot “begins to vomit spontaneously”, Cradle Of Filth, Saxon, Fear Factory and many others. In previous years they have given us Iron Maiden and Type O Negative and such.
Could THERAPY? fit in this list?
I know Michael would enjoy playing there.

If I could get Therapy? AND Alice Cooper on one festival, it would be reason enough to die laughing and happy. *sighs*

Well, the line-up is very metallic (in a way). But I think, T? have lots of songs that would fit in though. And f.e. I know a lot of Alice Cooper fans, that really love Therapy? music as well. Why not fans of other bands? At least T? are much, much more than just another punk rock combo.

Posted on Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:16

#26

soul doubt (an) wrote:

Fiestaboy wrote:

Speaking of Graspop Metal Meeting, I have suggested THERAPY? a couple of times to my friend and he loves them to bits in the meanwhile but he thinks they are too punky to play there.

and what about the hardcore bands thapt play there??? Therapy? would make the bill complete!!!

Posted on Wed, 21 April 2004 at 11:57

#27

always_drunk wrote:

Fiestaboy wrote:

he loves them to bits in the meanwhile but he thinks they are too punky to play there.

You should probably remind your friend that T? have played Donnington and Ozzfest. T? would not only fit into that bill very nicely but they would show some of those bands how it really should be done.

Posted on Sun, 25 April 2004 at 14:50

#28

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

I don’t remember what it was for, but there was a review of a festival of some sort a few years ago, and the reviewer said that T? managed in ‘Knives’ what Slipknot have made their career out of… ;)

Posted on Sun, 25 April 2004 at 21:32

#29

Andy D (Andy) wrote:

Does anyone else think that Knives sometimes reminds them of Whole Lotta Rosie by AC/DC?

Posted on Sun, 25 April 2004 at 23:20

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