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Good Therapy? Sound

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Started by Fester in Musicians (Gear, Tabs & Lyrics)

Hi all

Does anyone know a good Therapy Sound?

Im Using an Ephiphone SG400, through a Zoom 707II pedal using a Marshall Valvestate 8080.

Can get a good distortion on the Pedal but having trouble getting a fat sound out of the clean channel of the amp.

Anyone here know how to get a nice warm sound using Bass / Middle & Treble settings?

Appreciate your help.

“FUCK COLUMBAS HE WAS LOST”

Posted on Fri, 7 May 2004 at 14:38

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satansteddybear wrote:

To get the BIG guitar sound like Troublegum, use lots of distortion/overdrive and lots of chorus

hope this helped

az

Posted on Sun, 9 May 2004 at 00:38

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Auto_Surgery (Andy) wrote:

Get rid of the Zoom! Drop the Mid and wack the Treble & bass up - Make your EQ on the amp look like this -

/ \ /
Treble Mid Bass

Posted on Mon, 10 May 2004 at 10:02

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tatty seaside town wrote:

Similiar to Bass … well the bass actually more like this

for bass guitar:

bass —>
mid <—
high —>

Posted on Mon, 10 May 2004 at 10:16

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Fester wrote:

Thanks for all your help

only trouble is this sounds great in bedroom but when we gig / rehearse get a really muddy sound any ideas?

Posted on Mon, 10 May 2004 at 18:16

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tatty seaside town wrote:

you have to try out … the architectur of rooms has in impact on the actual sound you here in this room … So when this sounds in your bedroom right, it probably sounds totally different during rehearsel!

if it sounds moody get more high frequences in and the middle more out

Posted on Mon, 10 May 2004 at 18:26

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satansteddybear wrote:

If you try lifting your cab’ off the floor like on a beer crate(newcastle brown ale crates are best, send me the bottles ;) )
Coz floors sap some frequencies out of your sound and it’ll travel a bit better too.

Posted on Tue, 11 May 2004 at 21:44

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interzone (Order and method) wrote:

You could try with a fender telecaster Japan serie,
keep your marschall 8080 (second generation’s better)

and : on your marschall, tune Bass on 5 to 7/8, Middle on 6.5/7.5 and high 3.5/4 or 6.5/8.

With the guitar, tune middle microphones.

Forget effect pedals who are not the ones used by Andy.
Forget your Epiphone Rock’n Roll Booggie Choobby Yeah oasis guitar.

I tried with a Boss DS-2 and the sound didn’t push me across my bedroom’s wall.

“Have fun, play louder, stay free.”

Posted on Sun, 30 May 2004 at 18:57

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satansteddybear wrote:

turn your volume up all the way and use your master as the volume(if you know what I mean), this gives you a thunderous distorted sound to get ‘the hands down the strings’ thing andy used on troublegum alot.
Of course they were clever in the studio too, using open chords to back the power chords, where possible- this gives you that, played by satan himself type of noise :D

az

Posted on Mon, 31 May 2004 at 15:58

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Snakey wrote:

What sounds good in the bedroom is not what sounds good with a band. The mega distorted scooped sound that sounds good when you play by yourself will get eaten up by the bass, kick and cymbals with you band.

You should try decreasing the distortion/gain on your amp (ignore the zoom for now) and have the master volume up as much as you can get it before your neighbours/bandmates complain. You want to get the balance of pre-amp, power-amp and speaker distortion right, this should give you a thick and powerfull sound, that will fit in with the other instruments. If you bassist has a trebley tone, try increasing your bass and mid tone controls, if he is bass heavy try decreasing your bass and increasing your mids and treble. You want the band as a whole to sound loud and together.

Also, sounds that work live are not the smae as sounds that work on record- on a recording bands use a lot of EQ and panning to make things fit. Try seeing some local bands you like, and see how their guitarists have their amps set up too. :)

Posted on Thu, 3 June 2004 at 22:01

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satansteddybear wrote:

Snakey wrote:

What sounds good in the bedroom is not what sounds good with a band. The mega distorted scooped sound that sounds good when you play by yourself will get eaten up by the bass, kick and cymbals with you band.

I use the same set-up live and studio it sounds great on both and has for the 13 years I’ve played just fiddle with the bass/trebble as you get louder

az

Posted on Fri, 4 June 2004 at 22:32

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Flood wrote:

Try using a good old SG through a Marshall JCM 800.
Pretty sure thats what Andy used on the Troublegum album.
By the way I’m new so please be gentle!

Posted on Mon, 21 June 2004 at 14:13

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Idlevice2 wrote:

I can get a perfect ‘Misery’ sound by using a Line 6 guitar port and… using the preset ‘Green Day- Basket Case’ distortion from the website. Really. Honest.

Posted on Mon, 21 June 2004 at 20:49

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