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Evil Elvis and… ahem… alternative tunings?

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Started by andys gibson sg (James Harris)

Just wondered could someone tab me out, fully, the tab for ‘Evil Elvis’? I’ve seen a rough one on the ‘suicidepact.com’ site but I’m not kick ass on reading chords, so if someone could have me out that’ll be great ;)

And please can someone tell me the truth… Therapy? NEVER use drop-d tuning, right? I’ve seen so many tabs for it and I don’t believe the band uses it. Also cause I hate that tuning. :mad:

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 00:25

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#1

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

They defintely used it at the very lest on Unbeliever, I heard straight from Michael. (AKA the horses mouth)

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 00:38

#2

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

they use drop d on later albums, starting with Troublegum, (Id say) then lower to drop c by the time they did High Anxiety.If pretty much figure out the new songs too, and I’d say drop c.

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 01:06

#3

Charlie wrote:

church of noise
Unbeliever
Stalk and slash
Hes not that kind of girl
I am the money

Whats wrong with drop D ? I love drop D !!! :D

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 01:34

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andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Squall wrote:

Whats wrong with drop D ? I love drop D !!! :D

Its too easy to play and its so common in tablature listings, and to many a nu-mental band that… don’t take this to harsh… I’m not so keen on.

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 01:40

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Alex wrote:

Squall wrote:

church of noise
Unbeliever
Stalk and slash
Hes not that kind of girl
I am the money

Whats wrong with drop D ? I love drop D !!! :D

Misery, also…

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 08:31

#6

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Total Guitar - Andy did the guest lesson.
Quote -

“Therapy? are a C band, meaning they tune to C. ”

Andy always has loads of guitars with alternative tunnings, Bad Karma is one that springs to mind as well as Church of Noise.

Shameless, Semi Detached & Suicide Pact are deffinetly not ‘E’ album’s, where as Troublegum, Nurse mostly are - and no I’m not banging on about class A’s!

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 08:37

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Alex wrote:

Auto_Surgery wrote:

Total Guitar - Andy did the guest lesson.
Quote -

“Therapy? are a C band, meaning they tune to C. “

Which Total Guitar is that, a fairly recent one? T? were surely only a C band from High Anxiety…

Quote (author unknown):

Andy always has loads of guitars with alternative tunnings, Bad Karma is one that springs to mind as well as Church of Noise.

Ah, yes, good call. And what about Fat Camp, I can’t remember as I haven’t played that one in ages…

Quote (author unknown):

Shameless, Semi Detached & Suicide Pact are deffinetly not ‘E’ album’s, where as Troublegum, Nurse mostly are - and no I’m not banging on about class A’s!

Babyteeth/Pleasure Death/Nurse and Troublegum songs are all in standard tuning, aren’t they, except for Unbeliever…?

Then again, I’ve just thought of that Teethgrinder b-side… Summer Of Hate, that’s C, I think?

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 09:03

#8

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Alex - I will find out which one tonight. It’s a Led Zepplin special I think (around the time of HA’s release), but that really narrows it down :p

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 09:45

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Auto_Surgery wrote:

Alex - I will find out which one tonight. It’s a Led Zepplin special I think (around the time of HA’s release), but that really narrows it down :p

Yes,Led Zeppelin were on the cover.

This is taken from what Michaelt old me, by the way:
“Troublegum is all in standard tuning(EADG) except “Unbeliever” which has
the E string ‘dropped’ to D.

High Anxiety is all in C tuning (E to C, A to F
etc.) except “nobody here but us” which is in standard tuning and “My
Voodoo Doll” which is in the drop D tuning.”

That is bass though, obviously.

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 11:04

#10

Charlie wrote:

andys gibson sg wrote:

Its too easy to play and its so common in tablature listings, and to many a nu-mental band that… don’t take this to harsh… I’m not so keen on.

I like Drop D where you play the whole chord, creating like an add9 chord..i dont really like drop d for the sake of it…Could you imagine trying to play stalk and slsh without dropping the D.. And that riff on Slither by Velvet Revolver would not sound as good in EADGBE ;)

True every nu-metal band on earth use it, but they are shite guitarists who never solo and the less said about Nu-Metal the better.

The St. Anger riff would not be the same in standard tuning either.

Anyway, how do you feel about semitone down tuning ?

EbAbDbF#BbEb ? :p

I use that when playing along to green day albums.

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 12:43

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Alex wrote:

Quote (author unknown):

Anyway, how do you feel about semitone down tuning ?

EbAbDbF#BbEb ?

I use that when playing along to green day albums.

… and Extreme, and Poison!

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 12:47

#12

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins…

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 13:35

#13

Alex wrote:

Love/Hate…

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 14:09

#14

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

I’m guessing more of the punkier songs are more standard or C tuning, right?

But people you’ve forgotten my other request about Evil Elvis.

Oh and hey what strings and gauges do you all choose to play your T? tunes with…?

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 15:09

#15

Alex wrote:

One has D’Addario 10s (or heavy 10s, I can’t remember) on it.

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 15:23

#16

Charlie wrote:

Title: I, Brandon.

I have a Brandoni Hotrail Telecaster.

Natural Finish, Gold hardware, push pull pot for selecting humbucker or single coil.

If you dont know Brandoni, they supply you with all the parts of a guitar for really cheap and you assemble it yourself, that includes drilling the screw holes, treating the wood and wiring up the pickups ( etc )…

I got a Les Paul too which, apart from having a bolt on neck, is pretty awesome i must say…I have played it through a Marshall stack and it sounds great. When my dad put it together, I took it to a professional guitar tech to finish it off, do the action and truss rod and what have you . Anyway he said it was so good, it was virtually a gibson les paul…

http://www.brandoniguitars.co.uk

Oh and I use Ernie Ball Regular slinky.

I also have an epiphone supernova in vintage sunburst whcih is also really nice. great sound.

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 20:01

#17

deadsetgav wrote:

Try open C for a laugh - Strapping Young Lad use it - really interesting to play

CGCGCE

This has nothing to do with any therapy? songs though

Posted on Thu, 26 August 2004 at 23:45

#18

Idlevice2 wrote:

Speaking from Scobophobia, the faded red SG is tuned to E, except for Church of noise, where Andy ‘drops’ the E string to a D. The Black SG with the 3 pickups is tuned to C - not drop C. The white SG used for 10 year plan is tuned to D- probably the same tuning as is used for Bad Karma etc. Unless its drop D, its impossible to tell.

Here’s the wierd thing. Martin’s Flying V is tuned to E, and then Drop D, just like Andy’s red SG, yet when they play ‘Knives’, it is tuned to E flat (he’s playing the main riff on the second and first frets- look closly), and then Back to E again for Screamager… does anyone know what’s going on here?

Posted on Fri, 27 August 2004 at 16:03

#19

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

maybe a cock-up? it got tuned for the wrong song?

Posted on Fri, 27 August 2004 at 20:53

#20

eros'_maggots wrote:

Just wandering does anyone know what strings michael uses and roughly what amp settings he has on each album?

Posted on Sat, 28 August 2004 at 19:32

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#22

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Title: Matt…

That sort of question relies on opening up a new thread me thinks. :)

Posted on Sun, 29 August 2004 at 00:46

#23

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Title: Elvis Elvis

Can anyone tab out that song in standard, without just mentioning the chords, please.

Also, anyone know what effect is used in the intro to ‘Bad Mother’?

Posted on Sun, 29 August 2004 at 14:44

#24

Auto_Surgery (Mad Axe Man) wrote:

Intro to bad mother is chello through a selection of Boss pedals.

Posted on Tue, 31 August 2004 at 08:29

#25

ctrlaltdelete (chris) wrote:

mr sg…do you use a valve amp? this will effect sound quite a lot.You could use a tube screamer pedal.i use big valve stack, but find these pedals give u a bit more …vavavoom, I also use a big muff.I’ve seen andy use these, and they are grest, lots of pedal combos are the only way Ive been able to get a sound close to his…

Posted on Fri, 3 September 2004 at 17:57

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