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Likely fox-hunting ban

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Started by mr self destruct in Chit-Chat

What does anyone think? It’s pretty obvious Labour are only pushing for the ban to win votes, but I’m all in favour of it. I can’t see how anyone can justify a load of toffs in stupid clothes chasing a fox around the countryside and then letting their dogs rip it to pieces.

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 11:45

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#1

Drengi wrote:

Totally!!!

As Oscar Wild once said, “The unspeakable chasing the uneatable”

Anyone who gets enjoyment from seeing an animal getting ripped to pieces should be locked up.

The mad thing is: music ends up getting banned when some stupid nut kills people yet sports like this are totally legal.

One Law for Us, Another Law for THEM!!!

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 13:12

#2

Charlie wrote:

Bring in Toff Hunting i say

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 14:05

#3

White Psycho wrote:

“oh but its pest control” No its barbaric. One guy can lay some traps and poison. You can’t expect me to believe that wiping blood on your forehead is a part of pest control!
“think of the unemployment” we deal with marks & spencers shifting production to india, we can definitely deal with you guys not being able to look after dogs anymore.

Fox control can be handled by someone like a mole catcher, same principle, bigger quarrey. Hell he could use pretty much the same equipment.

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 16:34

#4

mr self destruct wrote:

Some people have got some well fucked-up priorities as well. I’d like to know how many of those that broke into the Commons today because they’re pissed off about not being able to kill foxes anymore, were on the anti-war demos to try and stop humans being killed :mad:

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 17:06

#5

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Agreed. I do have _some_ sympathy for th epeople who would lose their jobs though. I think that the comparison with Marks and Spencers doesn’t quite hold up, since a lot of the skills involved in jobs around fox-hunting are - I would assume- not entirely useful in any other situation. Working for one faceless company, you can work for another. If you see what I mean. But that’s no reason not to ban it (fox-hunting, not faceless corporations… Though… *ponders*). It should be banned, and as soon as possible. I AM talking about fox-hunting… ;)

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 17:12

#6

mr self destruct wrote:

The whole industry surrounding fox-hunting would still exist if they dragged scented dummies around the countryside for people to chase and hunt. In fact it would create more jobs, as people would have to be employed to do the dragging!

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 17:18

#7

Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

Images of some desperate bedraggled man or woman clambering through the undergrowth, face lacerated by brambles, twigs in their hair, the hunting calls echoing through the trees… and a BAsil Brush puppet on one hand… ;)

Boom
Boom

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 17:23

#8

Mekhet wrote:

Why just stop with fox hunting? Why isn´t it cruel to kill moles with poisons? It´s easy for people to feel sorry for the “cute” little fox, but not for the cow their going to eat for dinner. And in my (humble) opinion the treatment some other animals get is worse. A steel bar through the skull is NOT kind OR humane to animals. Im not saying stop it,hell, i´ve had to hunt and eat cat (the army and hunger makes you do strange things…),but don´t judge something cruel when there are worse things happeing.

Here´s an idea, if your worried about the foxes…geneticly modify them implant weapondry on them…cyborg-fox. Now that would rule…they would hunt us…

Damn, I need to sleep.

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 18:22

#9

hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

I don’t really care why Labour are doing it - at least they’re finally bloody doing it.

There is absolutely no need for fox-hunting and I find it hard to believe something so sick has taken so long to be banned. As I understand it the law won’t actually be brought into practise for another 2 years, which gives all the wankers who work in said ‘industry’ plenty of time to retrain with M&S.

Did anyone else hear in the news this week about the 13 year old boy who was shot and killed because a hunter “thought he was a fox”? Point and case.

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 19:02

#10

Mekhet wrote:

It could have been worse…they could have shot a fox becuase they thought it was a 13 year old boy…

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 19:04

#11

White Psycho wrote:

Mekhet wrote:

Why just stop with fox hunting? Why isn´t it cruel to kill moles with poisons?

They are a pest to farmers, crops suffer if moles are in the fields. It was weird to see one strung up on a fence as proof the catcher had one. Quite frankly I don’t care about them being killed, its the manner in which they’re being killed I bother about, making a day out of it what I find wrong. If I cared that foxes and moles were just dying then I should care about all the cows, chickens etc that are slaughtered. But I prefer to eat them. Its just one of those things that will never be resolved in people’s mind

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 20:21

#12

mr self destruct wrote:

Misanthropologist wrote:

Images of some desperate bedraggled man or woman clambering through the undergrowth, face lacerated by brambles, twigs in their hair, the hunting calls echoing through the trees… and a BAsil Brush puppet on one hand… ;)

They’d get a head start and a bowl of dog food at the end of it, so where’s the problem?

Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 22:10

#13

'human?'? wrote:

I find it interesting that cock fighting was banned ages ago but fox hunting continues, why is that? Oh wait, it’s because the government and the House Of Lords is full of rich land owning toffs who like to chase foxes, and cock fighting was a sport enjoyed by working class men in the inner cities. Make no mistake, this is a country ruled by class division.

*Please note I don’t condone cock fighting.

Posted on Thu, 16 September 2004 at 07:21

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Misanthropologist (d) wrote:

mr self destruct wrote:

They’d get a head start and a bowl of dog food at the end of it, so where’s the problem?

Problem? Oh no, no problem. I _like_ the idea, actually… ;)

Care to sign my petition :p

Posted on Thu, 16 September 2004 at 11:14

#15

Reverend Savage? wrote:

mr self destruct wrote:

Some people have got some well fucked-up priorities as well. I’d like to know how many of those that broke into the Commons today because they’re pissed off about not being able to kill foxes anymore, were on the anti-war demos to try and stop humans being killed :mad:

After the initiative shown by ‘Batman’ at Buck House the other day, I’ll bet these guys are well pissed off that they forgot their costumes. :D

Posted on Thu, 16 September 2004 at 16:05

#16

mr self destruct wrote:

Misanthropologist wrote:

Problem? Oh no, no problem. I _like_ the idea, actually… ;)

Care to sign my petition :p

I’ll happily sign your petition. In the meantime I’ll also kick the living fuck out of any toffs who try and kill foxes in Yorkshire :)

Posted on Thu, 16 September 2004 at 23:40

#17

Sabotage wrote:

Well I haven’t posted for a while but this looks like a nice juicy topic to get stuck into.

I have no real strong opinion on fox-hunting, but I lean heavily towards banning it.

What I want to know is…do any of you guys know the numbers involved here.

1/ How many foxes do hunts kill each year?
2/ How many foxes die in traffic?
3/ How many people do the hunts “employ”?
4/ How many foxes are shot or killed by other means?
5/ Are they the “pest” they’re supposed to be? How much livestock do they kill?

Cheers

Posted on Sun, 19 September 2004 at 23:06

#18

lazloman2002 wrote:

i reckon the fact that upper class rich bastards like to hunt is justification enough for banning it.

Posted on Mon, 20 September 2004 at 13:47

#19

Sabotage wrote:

Then the toffee-nosed gits will try and ban something you like for no good reason.

Posted on Mon, 20 September 2004 at 19:54

#20

Citizen Erased wrote:

What really pisses me off is that if you’re anti-hunting the pro-hunting lobby complain about how you must live in a town and obviously know nothing about the countryside. I grew up in a village with one pub, one shop (closed 1986) and one bus-stop for a bus that came once an hour. We were surrounded by fields on all sides! Don’t see how growing up like that could mean I know nothing about the countryside. Am particularly incensed as was back there at the weekend and went for a run (along the road, wasn’t even in a field) - load of hunters out either hunting or exercising their dogs, which meant running through a pack of 20 or so hounds, which was not the nicest of experiences.

Strange but true, never saw a fox where we lived, but have seen loads since I moved to London - any arguments about pest control are crap, foxes are much more of an urban problem, but no-one’s talking about hunters routing around all the rubbish round the back of McDonalds etc.

Posted on Fri, 8 October 2004 at 16:13

#21

White Psycho wrote:

Well then if they’re wearing those red jackets (my mate says most of his family that go fox hunting don’t dress up like that) then they don’t want grease from Big Macs on them. Thats just unsporting of course! ;)

Posted on Fri, 8 October 2004 at 17:25

#22

Mekhet wrote:

Where do you think the meat comes from…

Posted on Fri, 8 October 2004 at 19:42

#23

Citizen Erased wrote:

White Psycho wrote:

Well then if they’re wearing those red jackets (my mate says most of his family that go fox hunting don’t dress up like that) then they don’t want grease from Big Macs on them. Thats just unsporting of course! ;)

Could hide ketchup spills mind.

Posted on Sat, 9 October 2004 at 08:23

#24

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

Good! Finally a fox-hunting ban. Let’s hope Spain and Portugal learn from the British and ban bull-fighting.

Posted on Sat, 9 October 2004 at 12:37

#25

Mekhet wrote:

There is a slight difference (at least historiclly).
Originally bull fighting was just ONE guy against the bull.
Which in my opinion is great. If your stupid enough to get into the ring with a 3/4 of a ton bull, you deserve what you get. You kill the bull, you life. The bull kills you, and it gets to pass the rest of it´s days living like a king. And of course you die. Now THATS ok.
Of course things have changed. Today it´s between 8-15 guys against one bull. That´s not fair. In my opinion it should go back to the way it was before…
And incidentally most of central and south america also have bull fights. Not just portugal and spain.

Posted on Mon, 11 October 2004 at 11:15

#26

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

I know that in a lot of South American coutries bull-fighting is practised as well. In Asia there are hen-fights, everywhere in the world you’ll find illegal dog-fights, in Turkey and the Balkan countries ‘people’ make bears dance on hot iron plates, or have them fight with dogs. The list is much longer.

My point is that the British parliament finally made a sensible decission to choose in favour of the fox and it’s time the rest of the world, where these barbaric actions still take place, should do something about it as well.

Spain and Portugal are considered civilised coutries, but I doubt that as long as they continue having bull-fights, even if it’s one man against one bull. It is not necessary. Besides, the animal doesn’t have a choice.

Posted on Mon, 11 October 2004 at 13:00

#27

4eva wrote:

FOX HUNTING IS 100% SICK
thats all i have to say
what is the point in legging it round a field on a horse and shoot anything furry thats in sight??

Posted on Fri, 15 October 2004 at 14:04

#28

Sabotage wrote:

Citizen Erased wrote:

I grew up in a village with one pub, one shop (closed 1986) and one bus-stop for a bus that came once an hour. We were surrounded by fields on all sides! Don’t see how growing up like that could mean I know nothing about the countryside. Am particularly incensed as was back there at the weekend and went for a run (along the road, wasn’t even in a field) - load of hunters out either hunting or exercising their dogs, which meant running through a pack of 20 or so hounds, which was not the nicest of experiences.

Hi CE.
Sounds exactly like where I grew up.

I was talking to a guy at work the other week about fox hunting, and he said that more foxes are killed on the roads than hunts kill each year. Which kind of makes the hunt a bit crap I say.
What kind of “essential service” is outdone by accident.

Posted on Fri, 15 October 2004 at 15:15

#29

3ddo-on-the-balcony (eddo) wrote:

This must knock down at least one pro-hunting argument, if not all.

Posted on Fri, 15 October 2004 at 15:21

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