#31
heartworm wrote:
gapu wrote:
perfect example:
placebo - sleeping with ghosts (2nd cd with cover versions)
That really pissed me off, it wasonly like 3 months they waited aswell
Posted on Sun, 12 September 2004 at 09:32
#32
Bad Karma wrote:
hoochalobster wrote:
Secondly, what is wrong with trying to gain new fans? New fans = more cash = tour = new album. Isn’t that a good thing?
Theres nothing wrong with T? gaining new fans i have reccomended them,this site and its free MP3’s a great many times.New fans,new tour and album are all very good things but expecting people to rush out and buy Scopophobia again is a bad thing.I bet 90% of the regulars on this board probably already own it on DVD.Is there anyone here looking forward to buying it again on DVD?
Posted on Sun, 12 September 2004 at 10:21
#33
gapu wrote:
absolutely right bad karma and hooch.. and i wouldnt buy it a second time if i would already own it.. why should i?
and for that why not releasing a live cd from another show instead the same as on the dvd.. or why not releasing a new dvd with the all the videos? thats what every fan is waiting for..
theres something wrong with the record companies in this world…
Posted on Sun, 12 September 2004 at 10:52
#34
allroy wrote:
gapu wrote:
theres something wrong with the record companies in this world…
Cpitalism stole their virginity. :)
Posted on Sun, 12 September 2004 at 11:07
#35
gapu wrote:
:)
i like that nice little tune…
Posted on Sun, 12 September 2004 at 11:47
#36
mfgeorge wrote:
so region 2 fans get a second dvd that no one here is even gonna buy and region 1 fans get nothing? i’d bet they’d sell more region 1’s then they will of the special edition of the region 2’s… spitfire truely have their heads up their asses…
Posted on Mon, 13 September 2004 at 13:51
#37
Teethgrinder (René Fennema) Administrator wrote:
Some of you are assuming that Spitfire are releasing the new version of Scopophobia to somehow ‘trick’ the fans who already have it into buying it again. Doesn’t it sound more logical that they are releasing a ‘more attractive’ edition to convince people who haven’t already bought it to buy it this time round?
Comparing this to releasing a separate live album, or another product that the ‘real fans’ would like better doesn’t make much sense, as that would cost more money to produce, and the whole point of doing a special version of an exisiting product is to try to make some profits from it (if not, at least break even) to be able to fund future releases, tours, etc.
Posted on Mon, 13 September 2004 at 21:01
#38
Alex wrote:
If people are stupid enough to be tricked into buying the same thing again, well, that’s just Darwinism in action…! But if a more attractive edition was to be released, to convinve people who haven’t already bought it to buy it again, well, it is inevitable in that case that there will be some overlap with people who bought the first one.
I guess it comes down to the perceived value of what’s new.
Posted on Tue, 14 September 2004 at 08:46
#39
Bad Karma wrote:
Teethgrinder wrote:
Some of you are assuming that Spitfire are releasing the new version of Scopophobia to somehow ‘trick’ the fans who already have it into buying it again. Doesn’t it sound more logical that they are releasing a ‘more attractive’ edition to convince people who haven’t already bought it to buy it this time round?
I think the very fact the decision to re-release this Collectors Edition of Scopophobia was a record company decision speaks volumes.If another band lets say the Darkness pulled a stunt like people would be calling them money grabbers and accusing them of ripping off the fans.I also think the fact Spitfire are now including a live CD in this Collectors Edition its aimed at more than just new fans that T? may attract with NANE,they know fine well that fans who buy all the singles/EP’s and albums will want the live CD and end buying Scopophobia again just to get it.I really hope Spitefire don’t turn into Roadrunner and start re-releasing HA in digipaks with extra bonus tracks etc.If i had known at the time that Scopophobia was going to be re-released i would not have bought it and just waited for the collectors edition.What do the band think of Spitfires decision to release this Collectors Edition?
Posted on Wed, 15 September 2004 at 22:19
#40
gapu wrote:
so.. when will this collecters edition be released?
Posted on Sun, 19 September 2004 at 15:18
#41
gapu wrote:
Posted on Mon, 20 September 2004 at 12:11
#42
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
Posted on Mon, 20 September 2004 at 18:19
#43
gapu wrote:
Posted on Mon, 20 September 2004 at 20:05
#44
mfgeorge wrote:
you can get the mp3’s for scopophobia via soulseek if you don’t want to re-buy the dvd just for the cd… just look for me…
Posted on Wed, 22 September 2004 at 12:55
#45
gapu wrote:
oh thanks for the offer :)
i am not too sure if this collectors edition will be release here..
if amazon.co.uk got it, then amazon.de will get it too or? cause i havent seen an entry about it up to now…f
Posted on Mon, 27 September 2004 at 14:05
#46
gapu wrote:
Title: Scopophobia DVD?
will the new edition be released in austria or germany? cause if not i could order the other one now and dont have to wait so long..
Posted on Thu, 30 September 2004 at 10:59
#47
realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:
Like most here, I think it sucks donkey’s balls about the collectors edition. I also accept it’s not the bands’ decision, and it certainly doesn’t sound like something the T? boys would do.
But the fact is, I’ve (and loads others here) already paid good money for the DVD, and on top off that I’m going to be paying close to another 200 to get to Dublin to see the gig, so I ain’t re-buying the dam thing.
But I do have a suggestion, since they’re going to pressing the live cd anyway, why not produce a few more of the cd only to sell at the gigs? The money goes straight to T? we get the cd, everyone’s a winner ;)
Posted on Fri, 1 October 2004 at 05:01
#48
Dennis wrote:
realityfuck wrote:
But I do have a suggestion, since they’re going to pressing the live cd anyway, why not produce a few more of the cd only to sell at the gigs? The money goes straight to T? we get the cd, everyone’s a winner ;)
I have a ridiculous notion that one day, long, long from now, record companies will start listening to common sense suggestions like these from the people who know far more about the music business than they bother to learn, i.e. the fans. The fat, greasy bast*rds in boardrooms moan about how mp3 downloads and pirating is cutting into their (undeserved) profits, but they consistantly fail to give value for money and consistantly fail to give people WHAT THEY ACTUALLY WANT and what they would be quite willing to shell out their hard-earned money for. Instead, they milk the cash cow by rereleasing albums in “special edition”. Hey great, I LOVE buying all my favourite albums twice over instead of something new and exciting! Wankers!:mad:
Posted on Fri, 1 October 2004 at 09:35
#49
Sabotage wrote:
Well said Dennis.
I think that one of the reasons a lot of illegal downloading of stuff off the internet goes on is because the record companies pull stupid tricks like this.
I’ll state here and now (not that anybody cares) that this is a rip-off. Here’s why… We’re being penalised for being loyal fans. I’ve bought a few cd’s within days of release, only to find it re-released with extra stuff on later. The Stereophonics album JEEP was the last time.
We buy stuff as soon as it comes out, then a few months later someone strolls into HMV and gets bonus stuff for being a “casual” fan. Not that I dislike casual fans, but this stuff burns me up. It’s effin wrong.
:mad:
Posted on Sat, 2 October 2004 at 05:58
#50
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
@ Gapu - I’m looking into this for you, will let you know :)
Posted on Sat, 2 October 2004 at 08:55
#51
gapu wrote:
ohhhh… thank you pretty hooch! :)
i love you :)
Posted on Sat, 2 October 2004 at 16:48
#52
hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:
These are the confirmed release dates for the DVD so far, more to follow…
Scandinavia (25th October)
France (22nd November)
Benelux (25th October)
Germany (15th November)
Portugal (8th November)
Posted on Thu, 7 October 2004 at 18:31
#53
atha wrote:
Play has sent mine yesterday.
Originally I planned to keep both releases but ended up selling the first edition.
Posted on Fri, 22 October 2004 at 07:00
#54
allroy wrote:
Title: Just a blunder from amazon?
German amazon lists the re-release of Scopophobia as an audio double cd to be out at November 15.
I guess this is just a mistake and it’s the same dvd plus bonus cd as anywhere else.
Posted on Fri, 22 October 2004 at 10:58
#55
gapu wrote:
so this is the reason why i cant find an entry of this DVD.. not CD… good to know.. thx allroy
so i cant wait holding it in my hands… gabba gabba hey!
Posted on Fri, 22 October 2004 at 15:48
#56
atha wrote:
I took a couple of pictures of the new DVD+CD set if anyone’s interested. Looks pretty much like the DVD version with minor changes. Booklet (as well as Eagle-vision DVD ad) was included.
Click right side of the image to advance in slide show (center to get back to index).
Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 08:01
#57
Standinline wrote:
atha wrote:
I took a couple of pictures of the new DVD+CD set if anyone’s interested. Looks pretty much like the DVD version with minor changes. Booklet (as well as Eagle-vision DVD ad) was included.
Click right side of the image to advance in slide show (center to get back to index).
Thanx for the Photos:)!!!
//Stand In;Line.
Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 09:52
#58
MIKEHELL wrote:
Title: Scopophobia Re-Release
Folks,
Just so you get our side of the story.
Recently we heard word that a deluxe version of the Scopophobia DVD was available for pre-order online. There had been talk about such a release some time ago but the last we heard from the label was that it had been put on hold.
So you can imagine our surprise when sites started to advertise it with a release date. Anyway after a few phone calls the label have confirmed the DVD will be re-released and is part of Eagle Visions deluxe range.
The only difference is that the new package contains 2 discs, one with the full Scopophobia DVD on it and the other is an CD with the audio of the Belfast concert on it. We should point out there are NO extras or bonus tracks on either the DVD or the audio CD. This in itself means that anyone who has the original DVD package should not feel obliged to buy the second version.
As for the suggestion that we sell just the audio cd at gigs. A great idea but,as the label own those sound recordings, it would be highly illegal for us to sell it. If you want a audio cd of the show you could always find a computer with a good sound card/Soundforge and burn the audio onto a cdr.
Hope that clears some of the confusion up
TPY?2004
Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 10:32
#59
gapu wrote:
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhh…
i got the dvd since last week… its incredible one of the best dvds i have ever seen.. grrrrrreat stuff
i’ve also noticed that the first 2 tracks have nearly no noises from the audience??
anyway, i was just wondering if anyone know where the hidden features can be found?
Posted on Tue, 21 December 2004 at 17:14
#60
RobbyVDH wrote:
MIKEHELL wrote:
This in itself means that anyone who has the original DVD package should not feel obliged to buy the second version.
What a relief :D
Posted on Tue, 21 December 2004 at 18:46
