#31
Isness wrote:
Oh and yeah, This Is My Truth is pretty crap. Get The Holy Bible or Everything Must Go if you want a starting point for the band. They’re the two strongest albums.
Posted on Wed, 8 September 2004 at 21:52
#32
gapu wrote:
hmm
maybe i’ll do that.. i dunno.. maybe if i am bored which is pretty rare ;)
Posted on Thu, 9 September 2004 at 13:06
#33
Bad Karma wrote:
Posted on Sat, 11 September 2004 at 16:45
#34
Bad Karma wrote:
The Studio version of Empty Souls has been leaked along with another new song called Glasnost and they’re very weak songs very disappointing.Glasnost in paticular must be the most bland song i’ve heard all year.Now i never expected a return to the sound of The Holy Bible and i have no problem with the Manics going in a more pop direction but all their new stuff i’ve heard so far been very dull.I really don’t think the lyrics are any good.All their recent songs seem to follow the same pattern of repeating the name of the single over and over with a few lines in between.Its a real pity because i was really looking forward to this album now i dread hearing it,i think i will just download it rather than waste money on it.I think it might be time for the Manics to call it a day.
Posted on Sat, 18 September 2004 at 15:07
#35
romy wrote:
i think “the love of richard nixon” is shite.if anyone still cares, the video can be watched on the xfm website.their costumes are hilarious, but that doesn’t make up for the weakness of the song.i really don’t know why they chose a track like that for the first single.for me, it’s just “so why so sad” part #2.and when i first heard that one,i screamed with disgust.
Posted on Sun, 3 October 2004 at 21:36
#36
Bad Karma wrote:
I’ve heard Lifeblood Romy and i think its a bit shite i’m not going to waste my money on it,i am however still going to buy the The Holy Bible 10th Aniversary Edition.The tracklisting for the 2CD and DVD is fantastic!
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=1793471
Posted on Mon, 4 October 2004 at 19:26
#37
romy wrote:
hmmmm,it would be great to have all that live stuff indeedy… :D
Posted on Wed, 6 October 2004 at 18:33
#38
realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:
I’ve got a question/need an opinion.
I’ve got most of the Manics albums, and no doubt will be plugging a few holes when the usual budget back catalogue that accompanies a new release hits the shelves.
But what I was wondering was if getting the Forever Delayed with the bonus disc of remixes was worth it? As I have most of the songs already, what did more devoted Manics fans think of the extra disc?
Finally, (and I’ll probably definitely pick this one up at some stage) what did you guys think of ‘Lipstick Traces’?
Posted on Thu, 7 October 2004 at 05:34
#39
romy wrote:
i have neither forever delayed nor lipstick traces,never wanted them.cos the songs that i REALLY wanted to have are not on there.
Posted on Thu, 7 October 2004 at 14:57
#40
Bad Karma wrote:
realityfuck wrote:
I’ve got a question/need an opinion.
But what I was wondering was if getting the Forever Delayed with the bonus disc of remixes was worth it? As I have most of the songs already, what did more devoted Manics fans think of the extra disc?
Finally, (and I’ll probably definitely pick this one up at some stage) what did you guys think of ‘Lipstick Traces’?
I have the 2 CD version of Forever Delayed i bought it when it first came out i’m not sure if its a collectors item now.As for the remixes some of them are quite good it just depends on how much you like the Manics.I’ve seen the single edition of Forever Delayed going for £6.99 i haven’t seen the 2CD edition in a while but you will probably find a copy on Ebay.
Lipsticks Traces is a good compilation if you don’t already own the Manics singles,the two unreleased tracks Judge Yr’self(the last track they did with Richey and one of the best songs they’ve released in years) and 4 Ever Delayed are fantastic!
If you don’t already own The Holy Bible album you should hang on and buy the 10th Aniversary edition it has lots of extras,its out sometime in December.
Posted on Sun, 10 October 2004 at 17:29
#41
realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:
Cheers, I’ve seen the 2cd Forever Delayed in shop recently and it got me thinking as to whether it was buying or not. I’ll probably give it a miss and for Lipstick Traces instead.
Posted on Sun, 10 October 2004 at 21:20
#42
allroy wrote:
Go for Lipstick Traces, the b-sides are excellent, esp. the covers of Take The Skinheads Bowling, Velocity Girl and Last Christmas.
Posted on Sun, 10 October 2004 at 21:29
#43
realityfuck (Richard Splash) wrote:
Lipstick Traces always looked the more enticing to be honest. Reckon I’ll get that.
Posted on Mon, 11 October 2004 at 00:36
#44
Isness wrote:
Bad Karma wrote:
I think it might be time for the Manics to call it a day.
After the clips I’ve heard, I have to disagree on absolutely every single possible level I can. The new stuff is currently ranking among my favourite Manics material.
And get Lipstick Traces for ‘4Ever Delayed’ alone.
Posted on Mon, 11 October 2004 at 01:10
#45
romy wrote:
clips?where??hopefully not for real player?
Posted on Mon, 11 October 2004 at 14:55
#46
Isness wrote:
On some site or another. The whole album’s leaked onto Soulseek and torrents and the like now.
Posted on Mon, 11 October 2004 at 18:45
#47
Bad Karma wrote:
Isness wrote:
After the clips I’ve heard, I have to disagree on absolutely every single possible level I can. The new stuff is currently ranking among my favourite Manics material.
I think Lifeblood is a very safe sounding album for them,its not a new direction at all just a dreary retread of This Is My truth era only not as good and the lyrics are again very poor,I’ll give you a few examples from A Song For Departure “This is a song to break your heart to,This is a song for broken lovers” and from Glasnost “if we can still be in love”:eek:Thats the sort of crap you would expect Richard Ashcroft to sing.The whole album is very easy listening i imagine it will go down well with BBC Radio 2’s audience.I’m sure the tour will do alright and they will make a few more million but they’ve ceased to be interesting for me now i’ll buy the 10th Aniversary of The Holy Bible and then thats me,i’ve been a fan for ten years or so after the last few disappointing albums i’m not sure i am anymore.
Posted on Tue, 12 October 2004 at 19:48
#48
Isness wrote:
It’s “safe”, maybe, but that doesn’t bother me too much. The production is somewhat different to a lot of This Is My Truth, and I like the songs, which is what matters to me.
To be fair, those lyrics don’t look too bad to me… it’s a different subject matter to what we’re used to from the group, but I couldn’t give a fuck, to be honest.
And there’s nothing wrong with Radio 2. :p
Meh, I suppose we’re looking for different things in an album. I simply think it’s a collection of really good pop songs, which is what it’s meant to be. And that’s good enough for me.
Posted on Wed, 13 October 2004 at 14:45
#49
Bad Karma wrote:
Oh those lyrics make me cringe,Lifeblood was billed as a very pop album but compared to new singles by Britney Spears and Rachel Stevens MSP come off very badly.I was hoping the album would be pop music in the vein of Erasure,Depeche Mode and New Order.None of the new songs are as good as 4 Ever Delayed.The Love Of Richard Nixion is released as a single next monday and it didn’t even make the C-list on the Radio 1 playlist T? have probably had more plays than the Manics haha.From reading your list of albums in the 2004 thread and you said This Is My Truth is crap i’m surprised you like the new Manics songs.I was reading the Manics forum earlier and i’m amazed how anyone still likes them.Nicky Wire hasn’t written a decent lyric since 1998,i think the Manics are a band well past their prime and are running on empty i’m sure they’ll make another dirge of an album after Lifeblood with the obligatory ‘tributes’ to Richey and some political figure.I remember you hated Think Tank by Blur and whereas i think its a very good album i guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on Lifeblood;)
As for Radio 2 the Jonathon Ross show is good but i can’t stand Steve Wright.
Posted on Wed, 13 October 2004 at 20:56
#50
romy wrote:
if there are more poor souls like me who haven’t heard the new stuff yet, the whole album will be played on xfm tonight from 11 PM (0:00 CET), im curious to hear it.
Posted on Tue, 26 October 2004 at 20:01
#51
White Psycho wrote:
Love of Richard Nixon seems boring, only heard it once. It just doesn’t seem to go anywhere
Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 02:52
#52
romy wrote:
…and most of the album is just the same,IMHO.
the only stand-out track for me is empty souls. 1985 isn’t that bad either.but the rest-*yaaaawn*
if the new feeder album goes the same way,i’ll kill myself.
Posted on Wed, 27 October 2004 at 08:56
#53
Isness wrote:
First listen through, and I absolutely love this. The electronic sound is beautiful.
Posted on Mon, 1 November 2004 at 16:45
#54
Isness wrote:
After a couple of listens, my view is thus:
Tracks 1-6, 12: absolutely amazing.
Tracks 7-11: a bit dull.
I really love the electronic production, though, and don’t really hear the comparisons to This Is My Truth in more than a couple of places, really…
Posted on Mon, 1 November 2004 at 17:07
#55
Charlie wrote:
ive heard 4 tracks so far and i like them all :D
Posted on Wed, 3 November 2004 at 17:32
#56
Charlie wrote:
Squall wrote:
ive heard 4 tracks so far and i like them all :D
Okay, i’ve now bought Lifeblood…
:eek: It’s soooooooo good !!!!
Its the best thing they’ve done since Everything Must go and totally blows KYE and TIMTTMY out of the water !
:D !!
Posted on Wed, 10 November 2004 at 15:53
#57
Isness wrote:
Hurrah! Someone with taste!
;)
Posted on Wed, 10 November 2004 at 16:24
#58
Charlie wrote:
1985, kinda reminds me of 1979 by The Smashing Pumkins, must be that Major 7th thing they both have…and the dates as well :p
Posted on Thu, 11 November 2004 at 15:51
#59
Bad Karma wrote:
Isness wrote:
I really love the electronic production
No amount of fancy production can disguise how poor the songs are,lyricwise i think Lifeblood is their weakest effort to date at least on Know Your Enemy they tried to be relevant,for all its faults (which it has quite a few)Know Your Enemy is a more daring album.Lifeblood has had some very mixed reviews and i’m not surprised.
Songs such as I live To Fall Asleep,Emily,Always/Never,Glasnost and To Repel Ghosts must rank as the most mediorce songs they’ve ever recorded.
James Dean Bradfield has a great voice its too good to waste singing Nicky Wires nonsence lyrics,i wish he would form a side project or do some solo stuff.
Its also beginning to look from the mid week sales the Manics have another flop album on their hands (Not that sales ever indicate quality) but compared to the amount they’ve sold with Everything Must Go and This Is My Truth… Sony will probably look on this as a failure.
I think its a bit sad the way the Manics have ended up they must be one of the most boring bands around at the minute and the best album that they will have released in the last ten years will be the Holy Bibe 10th Anniversary Edition.
They are already talking about making another album but it will most probably be awful,assuming they don’t split up after this tour.
Posted on Thu, 11 November 2004 at 20:32
#60
romy wrote:
Bad Karma wrote:
Songs such as I live To Fall Asleep,Emily,Always/Never,Glasnost and To Repel Ghosts must rank as the most mediorce songs they’ve ever recorded.
James Dean Bradfield has a great voice its too good to waste singing Nicky Wires nonsence lyrics,i wish he would form a side project or do some solo stuff.
amen to that.
i can’t wait to get the holy bible re-issue.
Posted on Fri, 12 November 2004 at 00:48
