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Shameless or Semi-Detached?

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Started by Bad Mother in General Therapy? Topics

In the spirit of the Troublegum or High Anxiety poll, which of these two do you prefer?

(Before changing the message boards’ software in August 2007 this discussion contained a poll, which may return in the future)

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 14:59

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Alan wrote:

From my point of view, this is an easy option.

I think Shameless is really good, I think SD is really average. Nothing wrong with SD, but none of the songs really stand out for me.

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 15:18

#2

Jobrok wrote:

If we do a bunch of polls like this for all the T? albums, then do it again for the winning albums! At the end we’ll be left with the overall winning T? album.

An official WOM search to find out which is the best T? album in the world,… ever…!!!!

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 15:42

#3

Mr.E wrote:

Both are my favorite T? albums… Voting for SD!

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 16:39

#4

gapu wrote:

shit question.. they always made different albums.. none is really like the one before.. they are all “special” if you want?!?! and my favourites various a lot…

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 17:14

#5

Isness wrote:

Semi-Detached is my favourite Therapy? album. Shameless comes way down in seventh.

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 17:36

#6

White Psycho wrote:

gapu wrote:

shit question.. they always made different albums.. none is really like the one before.. they are all “special” if you want?!?! and my favourites various a lot…

why a shit question? Its just asking which you prefer, yes T? make different sounding albums to the others but it won’t always push all the switches for someone so they may like the style of another album better than the other

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 18:15

#7

Andy D (Andy) wrote:

Hooch sent me an e-mail to vote for Semi-Detached so…I did.

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 19:07

#8

FNYANKEZ wrote:

Tightrope Walker, Straight Life, Suing God, Church of Noise and Lonely Crying Only, pummel anything off of Shameless. Shameless has some quality songs on it but it has some weak stuff too.

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 19:15

#9

Rico wrote:

tough one but just for straight life and safe its gotta be SD

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 19:24

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stupidfish23 wrote:

dunno. voted for shameless though. it has “champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends”. So that counts as double :)

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 22:09

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hoochalobster (Sarah) Super Moderator wrote:

Fiestaboy wrote:

Hooch sent me an e-mail to vote for Semi-Detached so…I did.

…and now I’m voting for it myself :)

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 23:08

#12

Alex wrote:

FNYANKEZ wrote:

Tightrope Walker, Straight Life, Suing God, Church of Noise and Lonely Crying Only, pummel anything off of Shameless. Shameless has some quality songs on it but it has some weak stuff too.

And in the same vein, SD has some weak stuff too…

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 23:10

#13

allroy wrote:

A strange poll, to vote which of two of the weakest T? albums is better.
I went for SD anyway.

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 23:13

#14

(FIN) King Alcohol (Sami) wrote:

Absolutely Shameless. SD is full of great songs, but Shameless really rocks!

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 23:15

#15

Isness wrote:

Alex wrote:

And in the same vein, SD has some weak stuff too…

Other than Don’t Expect Roses, I’d disagree completely.

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 23:33

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Divers (Simon) wrote:

Personaly I’m going to go for Semi Detached as I felt the songs good and the production was better than Shameless, nothing wrong with shameless but SD has a bit of an edge on it.

Posted on Tue, 19 October 2004 at 23:40

#17

Bad Mother wrote:

allroy wrote:

A strange poll, to vote which of two of the weakest T? albums is better.
I went for SD anyway.

Well I picked them because they seemed to have similar status amongst fans…

I went for Shameless. It’s a one off. I think it’s great that T? have this sort of album in their back catelogue. It’s sort of a fun glam-rock stomp. I wouldn’t want every album to be like it, but it works for what it is.

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 01:16

#18

dmw_ops wrote:

I went from SD, but I love ‘em both…

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 06:13

#19

Morlock wrote:

Definitely Semi-Detached. It might be my favorite Therapy? album. Shameless is my least favorite so…there :)

The songs on SD are at times just mind-blowing with their ideas, while having a core of poppiness inside I really love. Among the songs mentioned here I would like to add “Black Eye, Purple Sky”, “Born Too Soon” and “Stay Happy”. I mean, those three songs alone are so kick-ass. Damn, I got to hear that album today :)

Seriously, the only song on SD that didn’t really do it for me is Tramline, though it is still an alright song.

Shameless has some good songs, and even some brilliant songs, including the best combination of two T? songs following each other: “Tango Romeo” and “Stalk and Slash”. But the production is too clean for my taste, they should have gone a little towards Suicide Pact, but not the whole way. Shameless sounds like studio, as Infernal Love does, but only that Infernal Love is not supposed to be rock’n’roll.

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 07:57

#20

BrummieDave wrote:

Why are one or two people coming out with cracks like ‘shit question’ and ‘two of the weakest albums’ ?

If two of the so-called weakest albums can command such positive reactions and stimulate this kind of debate the what’s the problem?

For the record IMO SP-YF is weaker than these two albums anyway.

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 10:02

#21

allroy wrote:

If you start ranking T?’s albums seriously, you can’t avoid having ‘weaker’ albums, i.e. albums finishing bottom on such a list.
That doesn’t say those albums are weak, it just points out that there are other T? albums I like more.
The only people having problems with that seem to be those for whom they rank much higher.
But tastes are different, so what the fuck?

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 10:10

#22

marja (sinner) wrote:

allroy wrote:

But tastes are different, so what the fuck?

de coloris et gustibus, non disputandum

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 10:16

#23

allroy wrote:

You’re right, in Latin it sounds much better - quod erat demonstrandum. :)

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 10:17

#24

marja (sinner) wrote:

i know an other one: nole meo turbare = fuck off, mind your own business

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 10:19

#25

allroy wrote:

“Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres quarum unam incolunt Belgae…”

Stop it, we’re not at school.

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 10:24

#26

andys gibson sg (James Harris) wrote:

Title: Hate these things…

I like all T? releases equally. The fact that pretty much every single one is different in its own right is even more special.

I go through stages of listening to one album alot one week, then listening to another the next. And I’m sure most T? fans are the same, am I wrong…?

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 11:07

#27

BrummieDave wrote:

Definately not wrong. Although I’m still mad on NANE at the moment. I think it’s fair to say that no two T? albums are the same and everybody’s entitled to their own view on a particular release. It just seems that some people only take a poll seriously if either their fave album or Troublegum is mentioned. If not, they view it as a pointless exercise, when really all somebody has asked is “what do you think of this…?”

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 12:17

#28

gapu wrote:

White Psycho wrote:

why a shit question? Its just asking which you prefer, yes T? make different sounding albums to the others but it won’t always push all the switches for someone so they may like the style of another album better than the other

naaa… not really a shit question.. i know your right… but for me its that it always various! i listen to them often.. but if i had to choose between them i think i would stick with semi.. yes shameless isnt too bad as i expected first.. but semi has more.. maybe power!???

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 13:22

#29

Preacher wrote:

I personally like parts of each album and dislike parts of each album, but IMO there’s nothing that compares to “Safe” and “Straight Life” on the Shameless album, so I voted for SD.

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 16:00

#30

Reverend Savage? wrote:

Title: Who know what goes on in that head of yours?

Morlock wrote:

the best combination of two T? songs following each other: “Tango Romeo” and “Stalk and Slash”.

A couple of my least liked songs. 2 good reasons to vote for SD over Shameless. There are several more!

Posted on Wed, 20 October 2004 at 16:50

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