Wall of Mouths

No.

I listen to aggressive thrash metal a lot, and I enjoy fairly rough mosh pits (although if anyone falls over i’m the first to grab their arm and help them up).

However, I have not been in a physical fight since primary school (I’m 25), and I have not ever been driven to hitting someone (and believe me, I’ve had provocation). I’m just not a violent person.

John Lennon was shot dead and he sang songs about peace & love. Jill Dando was shot dead and she read the bloody news.

I dont see how the kind of music Dimebag played can have any relevance to what happened. There were nutters before heavy metal - and if heavy metal didnt exist then there would still be nutters.

So if it isn’t agressive music or violent movies or computer games, what is it? Why does someone just snap, go out and kill a bunch of people?

Is it societies fault? Is it natural selection in a way? Is it because of a chemical imbalance? Is it because they were abused as children?

deadsetgav wrote:

I dont think listening to music, watching a film, playing a particular game or looking at a cornflakes advert causes regular, well adjusted people to go out and commit crimes.

Certainly not. I listen to heavy metal, “Die Hard” and “The Terminator” are two of my all time favourite films, I have played Grand Theft Auto 1&3, Quake, Doom, Carmageddon and other “violent” computer games over the years and really enjoyed them, but I have no trouble seperating reality from fantasy, and have no desire to ever harm another person in any way.

A sane person understands that a game or music or a film is of no consequence other than it is a form of entertainment, but how or why does a person get so obsessed with something that they go out and hurt someone.
What has gone wrong? Who is to blame? is the person who commits the killing fully at fault and if not who is?

well put! and I agree 100%

I’m not talking specifically here. I’m talking generally about the why’s. I know its a tough subject, but it got me thinking today.
How do you one day snap and go kill someone?

motherh666 wrote:

How do you one day snap and go kill someone?

So far, no-one knows, not even the cleverest prychologists and psychiatrists. Like said before by tatty, it can be everything that triggers an immediate agressive action. I do think however that this spontanious outburst of agression and violence has been built up over a long period of time.
Usually people who do this have feelings of low self esteem and of being left out in the real world so they create a world of their own. Problem is to detect this before they act. In a world where we are becoming selfish and where we look after each other less and less every day, this might only be the tip of an iceberg. Have you noticed that it happens more frequently in richer than in poorer countries?

Lemo wrote:

people are responsible for their own actions

Totally true. After the shock of hearing what happened I thought of Phil Anselmo being slated for “inciting” the killer after his interview in the recent Metal Hammer. It obviously takes someone who is seriously unhinged to get up on a stage and shoot dead someone who’s only crime has been to make music and enrich peoples lives by doing so, adn then to start shooting into a crowd of people who came to see a band and enjoy themselves. Its a pity that the gunman was shot also as we’ll never know his motivation now

Lenny wrote:

Totally true. After the shock of hearing what happened I thought of Phil Anselmo being slated for “inciting” the killer after his interview in the recent Metal Hammer. It

No sane person walks out and shoots someone cause their favourite band breaks up - this guy must have had some serious issues. We will probably never know what lead up to this - although we will probably hear from his neighbours about how ‘odd’ he was and how he was a loner or some shit

everyone is hit by it

http://www.lifeofagony.com/

Also reactions from Metallica and Machine Head:

http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=5623

http://www.machinehead1.com/news.html