Wall of Mouths

I’d like a copy…can you let me know your address?

Cheers

IAN

I have to admit that at first I was a little disappointed but now I love it !!! Best live track has got to be Body Bag Girl (played as encore at the Berlin show), but Slash is also a current favourite. I was also the same with every album!!! I think Therapy? constantly surprise because each album sounds different to my expectations i.e. Nurse at first sounded a little too over produced, but then after a few plays, it fitted the whole mood of the songs well. Infernal Love I expected to be another Troulegum but was more of a rock epic. and so on and so forth. The only one that wasnt a surprise was Troublegum and that was only because of the amount of material on there that had already been aired.

I think its a credit to them that they dont make exactly what you expect them to !!! Hence I would agree that after a little time, it is another classic Therapy? album.

Hi Rene, sorry about the wait as I was in the process of moving house (and country)…I will start emailing the MP3s to you tomorrow when I get my CD from home and bring it work. is that OK ?

What can I say? That man is a star. Cheers Rene…dank je wel!

I have Disgracelands and Diane (acoustic) in CD quality MP3 if you want me to send them your way. I also have the demos on cassette but I dont have a cassette player anymore so I cant MP3 them, I still have a couple of interviews I wanted to MP3 as well. Not sure if I send you cassette copies whether they will be good enough quality, as they are copies already.

Anyway thanks again, and for yours and everybodys discography additions, will be updating the list tomorrow and will repost the address when they are up.

Nighty night

Ian

sounds good Rene, let me know which ones (if any) I can send you

correct ! thanks for putting me out of my misery, it was really bugging me where I knew the name from…

oh yes, nearly forgot: I agree with Teenage Kicks / With or… not being on the list as most people have them.

As for the Hate Kill Destroy b-sides, I am going to have a chat with Universal as HKD was a limited run of 2000 but I think there were many more made for the Netherlands and Belgium.

The promo version of IL has the standard version of Stories (with no david Holmes bits at the beginning) not the live one. Never heard the Japanese IL import so not sure about that one…

Thanks for the feedback anyway.

like the Rod Stewart comments :-)

As i said, its a list of officially released tracks and Next to You doesnt fall into that category, although i agree that its a song that a lot of people wont have. I’ll add it to the list then !

Cheers for the info on Reality as well Sister.

Any more comments or feedback ? Predictions for how badly Rod Stewarts single is going to do in the charts ?

Title: 25 rarest tracks - heres my list…

I had a look at the list again that Sister put up in a previous thread and I reckon that the 25 rarest songs are as follows. Its not a list of the rarest physical records, as there are the white label test pressings of the Pleasure Death 4tk single, Teethgrinder 3 tk etc, that are rarer than rocking horse shit as they only made 10 each time, as well as normal records such as the Meat Abstract 7” of which there were only 1000 legal copies made (and 500 bootlegs). I am not knocking Sisters list in any way – top marks for a pretty comprehensive list ! I have also explained a bit about ones I left out from Sisters list at the bottom. Please note that there are no bootlegs on the list, so tracks like Next to You which appears with Invisible Sun on a rather nice looking 7” (only 400 made) aren’t included. Feel free to add your comments or corrections, and especially if any of the band or ex-A&M’rs know roughly how many of each promo on the list was sent out.

As a final comment, I am nearing the end of finishing the definitive discography, which includes every release worldwide, all promos put out by T?’s various record companies round the world, all compilation appearances, cat numbers, quantities released, pictures, sleeve notes etc. Its been a big headache sorting it out all out, but if anyone would like a copy when it is finished please let me know.

Anyway heres the list!

1. BODY OD
30 Seconds of Silence demo cassette
100 copies exist

2. SKYWARD (DEMO)
30 Seconds of Silence demo cassette
100 copies exist

3. BEEFHEART-ALBINI
30 Seconds of Silence demo cassette
100 copies exist
(have omitted Bloody Blue DEMO from this list. Bloody Blue appeared on the bonus CD of So much for the ten year plan and is pretty freely available.

4. HERE IS
Meat Abstract demo cassette
150 copies exist

5. MULTIFUCK
Meat Abstract demo cassette
150 copies exist

6. SWT
Meat Abstract demo cassette
150 copies exist
(This time, I have omitted Meat Abstract, as I think I am right in saying that both this version and Punishment Kiss were the ones that appeared on the single and Babyteeth…Mikehell, is this true?)

7. Teenage Kicks
Have a merry fucking Christmas 7”
1000 copies exist

8. With or without you
Have a merry fucking Christmas 7”
1000 copies exist

9. Sister (live)
Hate Kill Destroy EP
2000 copies exist

10. Six Mile Water (live)
Hate Kill Destroy EP
2000 copies exist

11. Hunks of Burnin’ Love (Bowels of Love demo)
(Therapy? as Mondo Paddy)
The King and I compilation 10”
3000 copies exist

12. Misery (Radio edit)
Misery Radio Promo CD
Number of copies not known

13. Knives (live)
Misery Radio Promo CD
Number of copies not known

14. Stories (live)
Misery Radio Promo CD
Number of copies not known

15. Knives (Kiddies version)
Knives radio promo
Number of copies not known

16. Nausea (clean version)
Nausea US radio promo
Number of copies not known

17. Disgracelands (acoustic)
Bad Mother (Belgium only) single
Number of copies not known

18. Diane (acoustic)
Bad Mother (Belgium only) single
Number of copies not known

19. Opal Mantra (acoustic)
Bad Mother (Belgium only) single
Number of copies not known

20. Trigger Inside (Psycho Amigo Mix)
Trigger Inside limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

21. Trigger Inside (Psycho Amigo Instrumental)
Trigger Inside limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

22. Die Laughing (David Holmes mix 1)
Die Laughing limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

23. Die Laughing (David Holmes mix 2)
Die Laughing limited 12”
Number of copies unknown

24. Teethgrinder (Remix)
Nausea US promo
Number of copies not known
(This is a different remix than the 2 that appear on the Teethgrinder 12”)

25. Totally Random Man (Mark Goodier Session for BBC Radio1)
Pervo US Promo
Number of copies not known

The ones that I left out include:

Vicar in a tutu / Come and Die / Invisible Sun / Iron Man
All of these are still available on the relevant compilations so they arent really rare

Rehab (Andys guest appearance with ManChild)
Single still available in the shops and on order.

Jonestown Mind (?)
A bit of a mystery this one. I remember a Jonestown Mind remix of one song, but I cant remember where!!! I think it was Innocent X…any help ????

Punishment Kiss (demo)
The version that is on Meat Abstract is the same one that is on Babyteeth and not a demo version.

Reality (?)
Don’t know what this is !

Teethgrinder (Unsane and TeeHee dub mixes)
Only just outside the Top 25. Not many were made of these and Im holding onto my copy tightly.

Innocent X (Special remix)
Split single with Orbital / Also on Volume CD “Sharks patrol these waters”.

Hey Paul

I would be interested in trading or buying the Trigger Inside remixes 12’, anything you are missing from your collection as I have quite a few spares and have been collecting since i first saw the band in London early 92, so theres a fair amount! Other than that, i can buy as well.

Cheers Ian
ian@virtual-volume.com

yep, Ive got one too, I bought mine in a record shop in Aix en provence in France and its got the same tracks on it as the German one…the only difference is the French language sticker on it.

Title: Shortsharpshock CD

youve probably all got it anyway, but Im having a clear out and I have a spare of ShortSharpShock on CD if anyone needs one to top up their collection. Let us know if you have anything you can swop for it.