Wall of Mouths

Worse than bloody platform alterations - I’ll go, but not quietly. Mutter mutter mutter mutter mutter

Stories and Shame on you by the Wildhearts

Also Nothing Ever Changes But the Shoes by the Wildhearts and Kicking my Heart Around by the Black Crowes.

Don’t you think it would be like a one night stand with an ex-girlfriend?

Yeah - good to see what’s changed, but not the same as it was first time round.

I still would though.

(Babyteeth and Pleasuredeath I mean)

In other news - I absolutely love love love the album.

motherh666 wrote:

Loving it. *sneaks back into the shadows*

With your little book, with your little book, with your little book, you’re hiding in the shadows?

Nothing from Amazon yet, so iTunes it is.

Fuck.

Where to start.

The absolute best thing about Therapy? Is their total and utter mastery of developing and changing their style with each and every album. I knew what this album was going to sound like, I KNEW it. I was totally totally wrong, so I had to listen to it. You know, properly listen to it.

I listened 3 times and I’m scared, paranoid and uncomfortable. It’s a quite unsettling piece of music. It took me years to properly get SPYF, but it’s my favourite album. This is a great album. I need to listen to it more and more, but I do most of my listening in the car and on my own, and I’m not sure it’s an album to listen to unless there’s someone to look after you after.

Brilliant?

It’s very hard to believe that Babyteeth was their first album. It’s so very very good. Not a weak moment on it.

Reaeally - 2 years ago? I’m pretty sure OCFA was a coaster by now - can’t remember the last time I dug it out in fact.

Timber is excellent - I’ll reserve judgement until we have another album or 2 - it’s certainly top 3 or 4 though isn’t it?

Only if I head over the border to Rochdale Gav.

Sweet Jesus, did that guy ever find his lost Prozac?

Entertaining though the lunatic fringe conspiracy theorists are, I see we have little option but to believe our government and intelligence agencies if they say there are justifiable reasons to go to war. It may be unpalatable and it may not be the easiest thing to do, but how many 7/7’s have been stopped through the course of the military action? I know some people in the intelligence community, and although they never discuss their work, I know they work incredibly long hours and can be very busy.

As for the poor soldiers - I was on a train with 2 lads from Blackburn going to sign up for the first time recently - both about 17 - lovely guys, energetic, funny, genuine and excited. They’ll (hopefully) come out of the army well disciplined, trained and mature. much better than lurking in bus shelters smoking ratty fags through nicotine stained fingers and drinking cheap white cider. What would they do if they didn’t go into the army? Well there’s no jobs, and they can’t afford to go to Uni (who can?) so for them it is a viable career. I don’t fancy it myself, but all the more credit to them for doing it.

As for the Therapy? lads and their involvement in the war - let’s hark back to Not in Any Name from High Anxiety for a moment, the chorus speaks for itself and

“My Grandfather, was cannon fodder, to think he died for the likes of you” is pretty self-explanatory too. I don’t think you can even remotely claim that T? are pro-war.

I’m glad you’ve expressed your opinion and it’s provoked a rather deeper debate than the usual range of farting, telly and nonsense, but I think there are some big inaccuracies in what you’re claiming.

Stockholm Syndrome by Muse - I always thought that the middle solo was quite T? and would be interesting to see them inject some testosterone into the verses

Rain Hits Concrete 40
Black Eye Purple Sky 30
Pantopon Rose 45
Turn 85
Our Love Must Die 50
Unrequited 15
Born Too Soon 45
Shitkicker 10 -
Ten Year Plan 80 +
Walk Through Darkness 60

Rain Hits Concrete 50
Black Eye Purple Sky 35
Pantopon Rose 50
Turn 80
Our Love Must Die 40
Unrequited 20
Born Too Soon 45-
Shitkicker 20
Ten Year Plan 70+
walk Through Darkness 50

Great interview - very interesting. I like the question about the Crooked Timber tracks reaction live. I remember when high anxiety was out going to the shows and thinking that they were just Therapy? by numbers but hearing them now is great - also the OCFA tracks - on the live album they sound ace, and I remember how good they are.

he’s alrite.

buffalo-boy wrote:

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I could have put my best ones on there - Dogman, Kings X - Diorama, Silverchair - 12 Short Stories, Ruby Cruiser - Ethereal Mirror, Cathedral etc but then that would be… yes…biased towards ME!

You seem to have missed the point of ill-concieved, one-sided, opinionated musical bigotry.

C- must try harder.

@Epitome: We have a small committee which votes on the status of albums and we have a theory that there have been no truly great albums released since 1997. This is backed up by not being able to think of a single album released since 1997 which compares to Automatic for the People, Troublegum, Earth Vs The Wildhearts or Nevermind. I think SP-YF is probably the only album released in the past 13 years which could claim to be up there with the greatest albums of all time. I don’t think that’s overstating how good this album is.

Obviously, I’ll appreciate any (sensible) suggestions for other albums released since 1997 which are all time greats too. I think I’ve got a thread on here about it somewhere. (Hooch?)

I’m listening to Suicide Pact - You First again and it’s fucking awesome. I love this album

I bought it the monday morning it came out at Crash records on the Headrow in Leeds, it wasn’t long after I started Uni, and I was pretty broke, so it seemed like a big deal, but you can’t not buy Therapy? CDs when they come out.

I remember listening to it and being confused and blown away becuase of how dark and turbulent it it. It ebbs and flows between smooth and serene, like 6 mile water - out and out guitar screamers like Jam Jar Jail, the Rock out extravaganza of Ten Year Plan and the epic instrumental big cave in, which I’m sure I remember seeing live and thinking it was amazing.

I used to put it on on my stereo before I went to bed and I would listen to it as I fell asleep. Invariably I would drift off after Sister, and utterly fucking shit my pants as I got woken up by As I Persue my way Unharmed, thinking there were people in the room.

It’s heavy, gentle, rocking, soothing, schizo deranged and dark. I love it. WHAT an awesome album. I think I’m going to have to have it as the only album released since 1997 which is truly great.

Slightly off topic, I know, but the thing that sets Therapy? apart from a lot of other bands is the fact that they stay fresh and new each time they release something. Other bands might experiment for an album or two before settling down into a consistent and predictable rhythm. Biffy Clyro, for example, were an amazing, unusual innovative band, then they hit paydirt with Puzzle, and then Only Revolutions is just Biffy by Numbers.

In contrast Therapy? by numbers would have to be defined as something uncompromising, unusual and totally different to what you were expecting. Infernal Love following Troublegum, Suicide Pact following Semi-Detatched, Crooked Timber following OCFA. That’s why they’re still going - that’s why people still care - even the Wildhearts last album was a bag of derivative shit. Thanks Therapy? Keep up the good work. Maybe a double album of Swiss-influenced Ragga next up?

Thanks for coming, mind your step on the way home.

My mum says I’m very special and I’m a Therapy? fan. Put the 2 + 2 together and I MUST be a very special Therapy? fan.

Polar Bear is awesome, the key is in the repetition and build, it’s a slow burner with a spectacular ending eruption. The lyrics add to the build and boredom as it picks up and the end portion of the song sonicallly represents the Polar Bear losing it’s mind, freaking out and tearing the face off its keeper.

Or something.

I’m always up for new music - I’ve been listening to a lot of early 90s B-sides and it’s like they released a new album, it’s awesome. I’ve heard them before but not for ages.

I remember this being quite an exciting little puppy of a thread a year or two back. In light of the European tour and the impending 20th anniversary of T? I wondered what people thought would make a good set now, after the release of Timber.

RULES: 2 CDs, 15 tracks per CD. Disc 1 1990-2000, Disc 2 2000-2010 Let me know what you think.

Disc 1:

1. Dancin with Manson
2. Potato Junkie
3. Teethgrinder
4. Gone
5. Screamager
6. Nowhere
7.Turn
8. Unrequited
9. Stories
10. Loose
11. Diane
12. Lonely Cryin Only
13.Straight Life
14. Jam Jar Jail
15. Ten Year Plan

Disc 2:

1. Gimme Back My Brain
2. Hey Satan - You Rock
3. If It Kills Me
4. Rust
5. Rise Up (Make Yourself Well)
6. Die Like a Mother Fucker
7. Polar Bear
8. Rock You Monkeys
9. This Ship Is Sinking
10. Our White Noise
11. Walk through Darkness
12. Enjoy The Struggle
13. Clowns Galore
14. Exiles
15. Crooked Timber

I’d be happy to find that in MY Christmas stocking next year. Over to you lot.

So, guess you’re not buying it then?

Yeah, me too - I also wanted to buy it, and failed - any chance of a quick re-release?

When I hear “my shade will comfort you”

I think “I wanna crawl up inside you and die”

Am I on my own with that or can anyone else see what I mean?

I’ve struggled to get a good listen this week because some scrotum pinched the CD player out of my car, but now I have, I am really impressed with this album. I found the first half frantic and focussed and intense, gravitated around Clowns Galore, which is immense, Magic Mountain for me is a perfect half time break - a foil if you will, much like Heroin is on Endless Nameless Before the sonic apocalypse of Thunderfuck.

I love the Northern Irish accent coming through, I think it’s given the record real character. it’s a definite top third of the collection CD - up there with NANE, Suicide Pact & Troublegum. I might end up getting quoted on this to disprove myself but I think Therapy? are at their best when they are dark and urgent and focus on these insistent drum patterns and repeating riffs (Teethgrinder, So Much For The Ten Year Plan, Brainsaw) I think it’s great that the band are still innovating and surprising us at every turn. The gulf between this and OCFA is unrecognisable - it’s like there are 2 Therapy?’s out there - one doing this stuff, the other concentrating on the melodic, commercial stuff.

I CAN NOT wait til Newcastle - this is going to ROCK!

Evil Elvis is also on the 2CD version of “So Much For The Ten Year Plan”

Not managed to listen to the full thing yet - FIrst impressions are promising, although I thought that the first song would have benefitted from a smattering of “tune” - I expect it will grow

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