Wall of Mouths

^^ agreed, but anyway…

i would like to hear what the band thinks of the selections… what is their opinion that nothing from ocfa made the cut? what do they think about playing lots of troublegum songs? do they need one of us to lend them a copy of sueing god so andy can remember the lyrics again?

Jobrok wrote:

Maybe they could do a count of just the WoMble votes. And record 2 or 3 extra tracks that were voted for most by us and didn’t make it onto the 12 song setlist.

this is a good idea if only because 12 songs doesn’t seem long enough in the first place… you know there will be more room on an 80 minute disc for more songs, and this really rewards the WoMbles without taking away from the rest of the voters…

i know it’s not gonna happen, just saying it is a good idea…

suing god
straight life
sister

you should ship to canada and then i’d buy one…

the item description makes me laugh…

although knowing the sizes would be nice…

can someone hook a brother up, since i don’t have itunes or the mag?

Duca wrote:

Sprung and Dopamine

agreed…

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Originall post by Alex:
Also, to quote someone above, “by a mile”.

sadly, agreed as well…

i quite like V&A as well… Tourist wasn’t so good, on the other hand…

since i live in Canada i’m gonna have to pay shipping anyway, but i’ve gotten my invoice/receipt from Amazon already and it says £17 (for 2) + £4 (for shipping) = £21

since i already have my paid receipt i don’t think they can add something on… on top of that i’ve used them before, not only the UK one, but also the US & Canadian Amazons, with no problems yet…

i think people are really missing the point of the original posts… it’s not that north american fans are complaining that therapy? aren’t coming here or that the cd’s aren’t being released here, it’s the false hope that they MIGHT be coming or MIGHT be released…

they said they would try to get the cd released here, that they would try to tour here… i respect them for trying and i understand why it won’t happen…

where the problem lies is in the fact that the band said they would get back to us, and in this instance they didn’t… i say in this instance because they are usually really good with communicating to their fans, but here we heard nothing for almost a year, and it took one fan to get frustrated and stand up to find out that it wasn’t gonna happen…

now that i know the cd’s aren’t gonna be released in canada you can bet i will be importing, no problem… it’s just nice to have an answer…

maybe this topic should be locked and done with…

although amazon says £9.99, it’s actually £8.50 when you place your order… haven’t found it anywhere cheaper then that!

Man of Five wrote:

do you guys think i should just go ahead and buy it from spitfire or wait for itunes canada to update so i give some hits to the band from canada?

i’m from Canada too… i bought it from the spitfire site… when you make your order you have to choose what country you are in, so it will still register that you’re in Canada… problem solved!

instead of starting my own:

i’m looking for an XL of the shirt with t? written in japanese with flames on each side… if ya can hook me up i got stuff to trade or cash…

mfgeorge(at)hotmail.com
cheers!

yes i live in canada, in alberta to be exact… where are you?

but it’s for my brother for xmas, not his birthday, so thanks for the offer… actually i’ve already had a couple of offers so i’m all good…

Title: items for trade - please help!

hello all, long time no see…

since NANE isn’t released in North America and i’d like to get a sealed one for my brother for xmas without having to give up my first unborn son, i thought i’d offer a trade for anyone that wants something i have and can help me out…

here’s what i have to trade:
- merry fucking xmas 7” bootleg (will need more then just NANE for this!)
- opal mantra clear 7”
- diane cd single part 2 (fuzzy one - small clip out of spine)
- detials magazine with article written by andy
- 2 t? postcards (one nurse, one promoting canadian tour with doughboys)
- 2 t? birthday cards
- t? watch from fanclub (needs battery)
- diane video vhs (north american format) promo from a&m

well that’s what i have to offer… if ya can help me out, please email me at: mfgeorge@hotmail.com

i’ve dealt with many on here before and all can vouch for me, as well as the fact that i have an ebay rating of 100% from 108 transactions…

cheers!

teethgrinder: i know you can decide for yourself… i would just think it very hypocritical for you to take it down… but alas i should not assume that you would and i apologize for the remark…

and the caps lock was only cause that’s how the post was directed at me…

ronald: the m and f are my first and middle name, george is my last… and i am a cool guy… but i stick up for myself and what i believe is right… i’m not going to lay down because you or a member of the band says something i don’t agree with… sure i lost my cool, but you push a person in the corner and they can either fold or fight… i fight…

i never once ever meant to offend you, the band, or anyone else here… i’m not even the person that stated all this, i just said i agreed with Michael A that the band should let us know, cause they said they would… and i said i disagreed with how Andy responded, because he sure points a finger at north american fans, and i feel i’ve done quite a bit for them, and that makes me upset…

if you can’t understand that, if you can’t understand why i haven’t purchased NANE up to this point, and if you can’t understand why all this would be a hot topic, then i can’t help you… i tried to explain, but obviously you just don’t understand…

Ronald wrote:

Listen, I am getting sick and tired of your( and others) aggressive replies…Are you actually reading my replies? You are right, I don’t know you, but that’s the same the other way round…at least I am not insulting you( taking the piss: YES)

BUY NANE ON THE NET…WHAT IS THE BIG ISSUE?????COPY IT AS MANY TIMES YOU WANT, SEND IT TO ANY RADIOSTATION, GET ON A PLANE AND DROP COPIES OUT OF THERE…ANYTHING…IF THERAPY? ARE UNABLE TO DO IT, HELP THEM…

YOU’VE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME…

I HAVE NOT BOUGHT IT ON THE NET BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD IT MIGHT COME OUT OVER HERE… WHAT DO YOU NOT FUCKING UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?

I WILL NOT COPY AND SEND THE CD TO RADIO STATIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY COPIED CDS… ON TOP OF THAT I HAVE A FUCKING LIFE AND DON’T HAVE THE GOD DAMN TIME TO BE THERAPY?’S FUCKING PROMO TEAM…

I HAVE DONE MORE THEN MY FAIR SHARE FOR THIS BAND… I’M NOT ASKING THEM TO COME HERE AND SUCK MY DICK, I WAS ASKING THEM TO LET ME KNOW WHEN THE ALBUM WOULD COME OUT, CAUSE THEY FUCKING TOLD US THEY WOULD…

NEVER, EVER, SINCE I’VE BEEN A THERAPY? FAN OR A MEMBER OF THIS MESSAGE BOARD HAS SOMEONE BEEN SO IGNORANT AS YOU…

AND THAT’S THE FIRST TIME I’VE INSULTED YOU, SO DON’T GO TELLING ME THAT I HAVE ALREADY..

AND TEETHGRINDER, DON’T TAKE THIS POST DOWN, CAUSE IF ANDY CAN GO SWEARING AT NORTH AMERICAN FANS, THEN TRUELY I CAN TELL RONALD THAT HE HAS HIS HEAD OF HIS FUCKING ASS…

you don’t know me at all, so don’t tell me it’s only once in a while i order outside of the country… over half my damn 500+ cds are not from canada… i listen to ALOT of bands worldwide, from sweden and belgium especially, and pay through the roof for them… but that’s because I KNOW i will never be able to get them here… NANE on the other hand, I DON’T KNOW… if Andy wants north american fans to show support, how better can i then when (if) NANE is released here, i buy it here?

all i ever wanted was to be informed about the release because we were told we would be… if there is to be no release, then i wanted to know that so i could find other means of getting the album… i already knew the dvd was not to be released here, and i went out and got that… but it has never been comfirmed that NANE would not be released until now…

it sucks that north america haven’t caught on to therapy?… i know i’ve done more then my fair share, especially considering i used to run the Therapy? in Canada website… i’ve tried everything ONE PERSON can do, and it’s a hell of a lot more then most europeans have done…

i 100% understand where the band is coming from, about record label bullshit, and about touring where the fans are… it sucks for north american fans and it sucks for therapy?

but i don’t think i need the band telling me to go fuck myself…

Ronald wrote:

as soon as a release dat is CONCRETE we will let you know…well…there is your answer!

are you telling me you think 8 months of not saying anything at all is reasonable just because they said that?

soul doubt wrote:

Do you have any idea what this will cost? I’m not quite sure they can afford this!

honestly, i have no idea… i’m not in a band or anything… but i do know there are literally thousand of bands, independant bands, that tour north america on any given day…

you know, i understand that therapy? have a good european fanbase and it makes sense to tour there… why spend all your time somewhere hardly anyone knows you and ignore all the fans that wanna see you… but 12 north american shows in 9 years is kinda rough… and not letting your fans know if the album will ever be released here is unfair… the moment they let me know it’s a no go will be the moment i look for it by other means…

soul doubt wrote:

well you’ve got a point there, but if you want to keep on waiting for that reason… go ahead!

actually i’m waiting to hear from the band… that’s why i agree with Michael A…

Alan wrote:

But regarding loads of bands with lower profiles than T? touring the States, is this because they’re young up-coming bands with record company money to spend?

no it’s not… i’m talking about independant bands that tour around making money from concert to concert just to get their name out…

buying it from a european shop would just go to show that there is no one in north america that wants t? cds… therefore the next and the next t? cds will not be released here as well… if they released the cds at the same time then you would be able to gage the demand from the north american market… you cannot do this now, and i would just be adding to this by purchasing it from the uk… if they ever do release it over here they won’t sell any copies now, cause all the fans have already purchased european copies…

and if you don’t believe me, then explain the fallout of t? in north american after troublegum… it took over a year for the north american release of infernal love compaired to the uk release… buy that time all the diehards had already purchased it from the uk…

PanZer wrote:

well if you like T? this much why don’t you buy their albums on foreign online shops, then?

you obviously didn’t actualy read what i said and just had to hit reply to make your point… as i stated above:

mfgeorge wrote:

and buying the album from the uk is not an option… besides the fact that it will be twice the price i would pay over here, why should i increase the uk sales while decreasing any north american sales if it ever is released over here?

and that link you provided is for the import version…
please get your facts straight…

soul doubt wrote:

It may sound cruel, but I think PanZer is right. The first matter of a recordcompany is money I guess, and they probably don’t see a business in it. I don’t think Therapy? can do anything about this, they do so much for their fans, show some respect please!

no doubt you are right… but when the band says they’ll get back to us and they don’t, well how do you expect us to feel?

if they got back to us in a timely manner and just said ‘sorry, there’s nothing we can do’ then i could point the finger directly at the record company (who they decided to sign with, i might add, but i digress)… but they have not gotten back to us when they said they would… therefore i understand how Michael A feels…

we’re not talking about touring, we’re talking about releasing the album…

and don’t talk to me about touring… there are thousands upon thousands of bands touring right across north american that don’t even have the profile t? does, even if their profile has dropped quite a bit… how do you think most bands start out? if they really wanted to come here, they could… but they don’t… they’d rather do their ‘uk/belgium/holland/maybe one other country’ tour every year like they have from the past 5 years…

and yes i know they were in the states for 12 shows in 2001… i drove 6 hours to see them… and i’ve flown to scotland to see them too… i don’t need anyone here telling me i haven’t put my hard earned dollars or time into this band… if they can’t release the album here, then just tell us instead of leading us on… it sucks the record company might not release it here, it suck even more that t? told us they would look into it and we haven’t heard anything…

Michael A wrote:

I don’t know how to start this so I’ll just get to the meat of the matter. [..]

i, for one, 100% agree with you… i got into an arguement with half the people here about this when the album came out, and they said the same thing they’re saying now… and you and i know it’s bullshit… t? said they would try to work on it, and we haven’t heard anything since…

and buying the album from the uk is not an option… besides the fact that it will be twice the price i would pay over here, why should i increase the uk sales while decreasing any north american sales if it ever is released over here?

ya, i know it’s mostly the record company… but is it 100% of the record company’s fault? personally i don’t think so…

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WOOHOO! CANADA! YA! WOO!

i have their first album and like it, yet never felt compelled to invest in any more…