Wall of Mouths

thread unnecassary.???! a bit like invading iraq fro WMD…y’all watching the superbowl, you cryin tears of patriotism for your interval act show of allied unity.
bottom line is, u live once. why obey orders? i just dont see why? if u believe wrong its wrong, just say no. suffer the consequences and get on with it. look at israeli pilots who refuse to fly bombing missions on palestine because of the casualties, they are in jail right now. they are real hero’s, just as some of the uk forces who said no!

It is entirely incompatible to disagree with the the conflict and support the participants who are engaged in that conflict. if u want to support them, demand them home.

and again where do you draw the line…were the SS just doing their job? obeying orders? (oh but in britain our boys could never be capable of brutality…bbbbbuuuuuuuuuullshit!) where ever Britain invades suffering follows. people accept responsibility for your actions and lives, it will be over before we know it and we cant change anything afterward.

last point, the company i worked for sold elearning to us force personnel. i resigned. do u want to be a pawn or a human, u only live once.

DUDE , what point was their in your friends son dying? u tell me that and i’ll shut up

‘pawns’ ? that i believe is a cop out. and its the same cop out that has kept the vicious circle turning for years…recruit the poor, give them a uniform, tell them its for queen and country and away you go, do ur duty. Ur right, they haven’t an agenda (poor sods) and that is very unfortunate for the people they invade and end up killing.
In the west we place a greater value on the life of our own boys than the lives they take, even when those lives are civillian and when the cause is totally corrupt.
When if ever will people take account of their own actions? You know what, its very liberating.

at which point is the line drawn.
A . Support the troops no matter what?
B. Support the troops even though we know the cause is unjust?
C. Support the troops in conflicts that are justified? ( an the argument can be made for afghanistan, i do conceed , but alot of history and politics has to be looked at here)
D. never support troops? (ie. pacafism?)

and about a million other derivations…but u cant go to war without an army! its hasnt been unknown for thousands of soldiers on mass to say no.

From the ruling classes, way too much fake sincerity and emotion from fake people. the years go by, the wars go by…and by the looks of it, we have another great big one brewing

it is the very worst thing to ignore and not dicuss. On this day above all! its vital that the madness of these war is discussed. Its not politics its humanity, cause and effect!
i’m not preaching hate. just personal self determination and respect

doesn’t matter where ur from…and what a pointless death…one of over 500,000 (thats including iraqis as much as the bbc and US tv etc likes to ignore them…should you not be angry? Fuck yes u should but with who? did someone put a gun to his head and demand he go there?? for the people that live there they didnt have a choice. They suffered the equivilent of 125 9/11’s
and i’d have this discussion in front of the world, dont give a shit bout online, paint it in whatever patriotic, flag wavingcolours u want. The losers are the civilians, and u’ll never hear they’re stories or have rememberance days for them.
Listen if therapy? want to play for the troops and by extension they’re actions and the actions of the UK US government, that’s ultimately their business ( and i count do a session for the radio station in question as playing for them). My interest is do i ever buy anything in future by the band. and by therapy? providing a message forum i reserve my right to make it know that i was surprised by their decision. Let them go at it, for those of you that agree, whoopie. I don’t, this is a message board, its not unknown on the internet for ppl to express views that sometimes causes disagreements. so yeah FUCK…??