Wall of Mouths

wow.. a 42’ for an E string? man.. mine’s a 54, and i bend that motherfucker at the first fret! awesome!

my full gauges (which i’ve just looked up) are:

Aria : 11 14 20 32 42 52
Westfield: 12 15 26 34 44 54

and on my bass i used to have La Bella Super Steps, 45 65 85 105 (amazing tone and sustain for finger playing) but now i use Rotosound Swing bass 66 in 45, 65, 80, 105 becuase i’m playing more slap and with a pick.

I used to love the light-top-heavy-low sets like the super slinky’s but i find since playing bass i had a tendancy to over bend, which was some of the reason for changing to thicker strings.

Great exercise btw for improving left hand strength: play without using your thumb. extend your hand and stick your thumb straight out so it’s not even behind the neck. obviously not great for chords, but practice scales with it. for a while it’ll kick your ass but it’s worth it when it comes to legato playing!

actually buffalo boy, i was quoting you quoting michael, i’m sorry, that was probably unclear. I did not know that you have a HND in music, what area? (i.e music tech / music performance .etc.. i list these two becuase that’s all that was on offer when i did it, i’m not suggesting it’s necessarily either of those)

Other than the first paragraph (the quote) i was writing form a beginner’s perspective as well.

I also would have thought that if there was a theory element to our music course, you might have also known about root notes (see Idledevice’s reply to your previous post), especially if you’re playing thrash metal; which is essentially root notes and pedal baased riffs.

Title: Out of interest: String Gauges

I always used to play with d’Addario 9’s, on both my main electrics; however in a band two years ago I was playing so hard that I was breaking a lot of strings! Becuase of that, I got them both set up differently.

I have an Aria Pro II which now has Dean Markley 11’s; and a Westfield Strat copy with Dean Markley Jazz 12’s sitting on it.

It wasn’t too easy getting used to the tension of the strings after they’d been changed, but after about four months I was starting to get the hang of shreding on them. What I like to do now is hand someone else my guitar and watch them not be able to fret any notes above the fifth!

The great thing about the strings is the immense tone you get from the thickness. even the G string is wound along with the E, A and D. If you’re going for a thick Rock or Metal sound, I’d heartily recommend changing!

So what does everyone else use, and why? How often do you change them?

i’ve got a Vintage V900 Bass ( http://www.jhs.co.uk/vintagebass.html ) which is my first and only bass. I’ve been playing bass for about four years now, and i’ve never needed a different one, it came very well set up, and i’ve used a vareity of different strings on it.

It might be slightly over the £150 range someone said above but really it’s worth it for the active electronics, becuase you’re not likely to want to upgrade it for quite some time

although wait a minute, i don’t play rock music on it..

maybe just best to go to a shop and try some out then!

buffalo-boy wrote:

Buffalo-boy I don’t understand what is rhythmic about a bass, surely a guitarist can provide more rhythm than a bass player. He can pick faster anyway. I suppose the bass player usually locks in with the kick drum though, so is that rhythm for ya?
Thanks!

Buffalo boy; the bass plays plays ina lower register sonically to the guitar. even playing a note which is also on a guitar, due to the thickness of the strings, the way bass amps work and the electrics of the bass itself, the note will have more ‘low-end’ tonally than the guitar, for which the sound is produced with more mid-range. play with the treble and bass knobs on your guitar or amp to see what i mean.

This means that when a bass player ‘locks in’ with a beat played on the kick drum, it makes both sound more powerful. Through a venue PA system this sounds incredible. have a listen to any rock music and try to imagine it without the kick drum or the low end of the bass and you’ll see why it’s also a rythem instrument.

In terms of playing only one note, that single note, being lower than the guitar, can change so much of the music itself. Playing the same root note as the guitarist’s chord will cause the tune to sound tighter, and punky; however if you then play a note three frets lower, you’ll change the overall sound of what the guitar player is doing, and end up with a more ‘progressive’ sound. get a guitar playing friend and try this:

Whilst he plays the following progression: A minor / D minor / C major / G major; you play A, D, C and G. then keep him playing this, whilst you play C, F, A, E.

what the two of your are playing as a whole is Amin, Dmin, C and G in the first instance. in the second, where you are playing different notes, the resultant chords will be C, F, Amin, Emin. you’ve changed what he’s playing but just playing single notes. It’s awesome!

if you need tab or anything let me know.

PS in terms of the differences between electric and spanish (nylon strung) guitars, one of the biggest is that they are played differently. Electrics can be beaten and battered, changed through effects, and amplified loudly. Spanish guitars are virtually almost played fingerstyle (so strings are further apart in order to get your right hand fingers between them), and are normally amplified through the use of careful microphone placement. i can’t thing of a single classical guitarist who would use effects either. It’s not just the way in which they’re played, but the objectives of the people playing them too remember!

the levels can be changed after the recording, and you could add effects onto any track you’ve already recorded and do varius bits and bobs, but it is much easier to start with a sound that you are happy with, and just record that, becuase then you’re not trying to correct things after the event

hmm.. sonds like you didn’t think too much off it… it’s great to chill to.. very relaxed pace of music

ahh, it’s a shame you guys couldn’t see them.. next year then?

ok but i’ll need your e-mail, it’s not in your profile, send it to doiknowyouquestionmark@hotmail.com ok?

well yeah, i remember there was a thread on here just after valentine’s 2001, and you and barbie had both said that you hadn’t got any valentine’s and i said i would send yo ueach a suprise one, so i took your e-mail addresses and sent them in febuary 2002, thought it might have been a suprise becuase you would have forgotten about it

http://www.therapyquestionmark.co.uk/wallofmouths/showthread.php? … =valentine
near the bottom of the page

Title: barbie and opalmantra

hello there, just wondering, did either of you get a valentine this year about a week early?

R&B started out as a label to put on the up tempo blues that black musicians were playing around 1920 onwards, which evolved into rock ‘n roll when white musicians started playing it, the and dj Alan Freed called the white verison rock ‘n roll; which became the name that stuck. the first real R&B hit was Ike Turner’s “Rocket ‘88” which was in 1928, and the first Rock ‘n Roll number one was ‘Rock around the Clock’ by Bill Haley, this came about becuase he was the ‘cleanest’ person playing this kind of music that could be targeted at a mass market, i.e he was white.
English Rock ‘n roll such as the stones and the who, the yardbirds etc came about when a minority group of teenagers here started picking up on the records of old blues players such as leadbelly, and started playing their interpretation of it, but with electric guitars, this was also classed as rock ‘n roll, but was the start of the 60’s blues bands and the invasion of the american charts by english kids playing their interpretation of the blues. the term R&B now is just a record company label for a totally commericial style of music, and it’s worth noting that it’s not the only word which has changed meanings, for instance, ‘soul’ now is completly different to what it used to be as a music form.
just thought i’d share that with you, i have lessons in History of Popular Music and this stuff rules.

oh.. back again, woo! not so much interested in the t? news as i used to be, but i just love chatiing on here and hanging out. :-)

Rene, thank you for remodelling the wom, it does look rather nice! erm.. will you be putting that wallpaper i sent you in the misc. section with Iris’ ones?

oh oh, i especially like the topic review bit at the bottom when adding a new message!

thanks stanslittlehelper, it realy is quite rewarding, even only as a student

oh.

okay

Title: i’m being silly

do you like my head?

bring it on!

hmm.. i’m gona spend my entire summer down the with a battered acoustic in the park with friends, maybe a week in cornwall, and not missing reading festival again, so that as well i guess. rather looking forward to it

yeah, i’m doind a course in music technology, as i really want to get into studio sound engineering and producing. i really do love the course, as we get treated like adults and not like school leavers or anything. my tutor used to be jeff beck’s guitar tech, and he’s a decent guy, although he will get arsy with you when you don’t do work, so he’s not a pushover. in eight days i’m doing my first live sound stuff, i’m engineer for a battle of the bands, we auditioned five bands last night and five later today, and i’m quite looking forward to the challenge

er.. kitchen hand for a day, working in a plastique factory for three odd years, getting up at 4:30 in the mornings for six months when i eventually went full time, being a cleaner, am currently a postie, which means i have basically no job security what-so-ever. the only good thing about my job is a) i only work about 4hrs a week, on saturday afternoons, and b) i just put my name down for an eight hr overtime shift on good friday. i’ll be getting paid 2 1/2 times my normal rate of pay for this, which is around £6.50. figure it out :-)

however when i’m older and i eventually finish at college, i’m going to do my damn best at sound engineering, which rules. am in a good mood becuase i have three hours studio time booked for this evening and i came up with somehting awesome to record last night: check this out for a chord sequence: Amin Fmaj Dmin Bbmaj Gmin Eminb5 Cmaj played with the bass end as a midi string ensembly and an overdriven guitar playing the rest of the notes to form the chords. this will rule :->

ok, so it’s not beer, but last night i was drinking a nice mixture. it went a little something like this:
4 shots vodka
4 shots bols blue
2 shots after shock blue
3 cans redbull
mix together, serves around two pints (depending upon accuracy of measures)

me and a friend got thru four pints each before we realised the single problem with it: we now can’t sleep bcos of the red bull. next time we’ll probably try mixing with champagne or somethign equally stupid.

Title: bass

ok, so i’ve been playing bass for like six months now and getting on really well, partly due to already being a guitarist, but recently my teacher suggested i did a search on the .net for this guy called michael manring, and like, omg! if anyone here is at all into virtuoso playing (and that does not necessarily mean just loads of widdle and slap) then i recommend you go to manthing.com, get a password to access the stash, then download the track ‘music for armchair funambulist’, then chill out to it, it’s amazing! has anyone else heard anything like this? i also recommend you have a look at the bass that was designed for him, the ‘hyperbass’ by Zon, specifically, it was designed to make it quicker for him to change tunings on the fly, in one of his songs, he changes his tuning over a hundred times before finishing! that’s mad!

i would sell my legs for the kind of aural pitch recognition that would allow me to do that!

I’m sure there’s plenty of europeans reading this thread who might chucle at this: the EU’s plan to introduce english as the official language within five years, all be it with a few changes…

http://satireville.com/issues/005/euroenglish.shtml

what does rammstein mean in english then?

hey Rene, thanks for the email which i recieved five minutes ago, hope everything goes well with the swap over, and thanks for looking at the wallpaper

peace

pizza rulez

i was at a friends the other day and he cooked noodles, then chucked them in a frying pan with chopped up bacon and poured an omelette mixture on top, left it a few minutes, cut it in half and served it, and it tasted great! this is the same guy that gave me chilli noodles with salmon; and whose idea of a continental breakfast is to stick an english breakfast in a baguette

mmm… cheap microwave lasagne, now that is truely a rare treat and must be savoured at every chance

Title: time for food?

what do y’all eat for lunch around here? i like to make myself something like this: toast two slices of bread under the grill, spread a little tomato puree on them, then grill thick pieces of cheese onto them, in a suacpan, have some baked beans, put into these some worcestershire suace (i hope you all kno what that is); some butter and some brown sauce, cooked some mashed potato, but mash it with mayonaise and freshly ground black pepper, then simply put the whole lot on one plate and add a cornish pastie or something to garnish; lovely!

my other favourite is two doorstops (thickly sliced bread, like 1’ each); spread with butter or cheese, with a waffle, beans and a meat pie in the middle; presto! pie sandwich!

what do you guys like to eat?

evilelvis, badkarma was first played at the lost weekend as far as i’m aware.. i didn’t go but some friends did and they were all singing it when they came back and they had the t-shirts on

how about anal cunt’s classics such as ‘hitler was gay’; ‘fred durst thinks he’s black, but he’s just gay’; ‘all our fans are gay’; ‘the word homophobic is gay’; and ‘we’re gay’

the only thing that beats that is probably ‘rented woman’ or ‘noise in the woods’ by the fantastic ‘muff mullet’